Why Bother?

Newbie Saikyo Dojo
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I feel you. I’m gonna say something less hippy-dippy from the rest. I believe there is such a thing as player ability. If not you wouldn’t have the majority of same niggas from eons ago still taking the top spots at majors no matter what anyone says. I don’t think Sabin has placed at a major tourney yet and he grinds as hard as anybody. Then SonicFox with no history of playing SF games comes and places Top 8 at Final Round.

It is what it is man. It is building a house agonizingly brick by brick situation for most people unless you just got it like that. You should identify some goals and knock them down one by one because if you compare yourself with niggas that just got it like that you are setting yourself up for fail and a lot of rage.

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I imagine it must be the sense of reward when you do manage to start getting better being the point to keep playing.

although i’ve kind of given up on fighting games (losing over and over and over just wasn’t for me) i will use a different genre but with a similar learning curve to fighters is that when I 1cc a shmup the sense of reward after all that hard work is a really great feeling to have. It’s kind of weird I don’t have that same strive for fighters although I guess it might be due to the fact that I prefer losing in a game than against another person.

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Why do you even play videogames? Difficulty should have no bearing on whether you enjoy a game or not, IMO. In fact, harder games tend to stay fun for longer for most people because it takes more play time to reach satisfaction (be finished) with them.

Why are video games different to any other activity that involves practice and improvement, like musical instruments or martial arts? Those require much more practice and dedication than fighting games do as well, and you tend to suck at them for much longer, and there are no stakes for sucking at them for most people unless you are at a high skill level.

While music or martial arts have their own prospects, I’m sure most people do them for recreational reasons, or for self fulfilment rather than their career prospects.

Of course the primary difference for those two are artistic creativity and physical activity, but the desire to improve shouldn’t be tied to those in particular, as it’s a general innate drive that most people have with all activities they do in life.

In fact, playing is one of the base instincts of not just humans, but animals with as well. Playing is (partly) done to practice and enhance skills that are needed in adulthood. For cats and bears, that would be hunting. Humans have gone beyond playing to practice hunting, we use it to practice war.

The desire to get better isn’t quite logical, sometimes it’s not even emotional. It’s instinctive, as getting better is fulfilling, and a gives a positive response in the brain when you feel like you have improved at something. The means of doing it for the most part don’t matter, so that’s why people like improving even in fighting games.

Might as well make a disclaimer: I personally don’t find getting better or being skilled my primary motivation to play street fighter, or any other fighting game. I get better as a byproduct of enjoying the game design, mechanics and art. It just happens naturally as I play and enjoy the game.

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Some enjoy the challenge, or the risk. Not everyone knows why, nor does everyone care. If you can’t dig it, move on. You do you.

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The desire to win kinda gives me a reason to keep playing and get good at fighting games, if I have no desire to win, I have no desire to iterate on my play and get better. The fun in competitive gaming for me is to get better at it and seeing the progress I’ve made.

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Playing street fighter has significantly helped my business acumen and the way I approach managing my day to day skillset. Certain lessons I’ve learned from playing the game and actively trying to get better against the competitive scene in SoCal back when EC was destroying us every tournament have fundamentally impacted my life. For example, there’s a mindset WNF’s was teaching players in terms of trying to get top 8 back in SHGL’s garage, which it still opts to teach them. I applied that to the way I approached gigging and saw a lot of success both in audience boost I got post gig and the draw I got going into new gigs. I went from opening for 15 minutes to being a headliner in about a year or so around Boston-- which btw, is a DIFFICULT FUCKING CITY to perform hip hop in. I can book shows consistently that a lot of people can’t, just because of the rep I’ve build from the competitive mindset I’ve applied to how my band approaches every gig. It’s our mission statement.

Other small things-- like recognizing the difference between appearances and results are a HUGE factor. It’s a huge problem with musicians to be honest and being able to kind of blend away from that I’m very greatful for. Also, whenever I pick up any hobby, I apply the 100 method I learned a while back when figuring out how to play Ryu-- and I’ve learned a SIGNIFICANT amount more doing it.

My dexterity with my fingers has helped me with scratching in Turntable Technique, my ability to make quick decisions mid show or during a meeting, analyzing the risk/reward of situations to an alarming degree-- all of this I got from literally playing this game, and I got it in a way very few people do. I’m sure a good amount of the community has these skills-- and if you come out of your shell, you’ll find they aid you in adult life a lot more than you know.

Also, I know a few top players who probably have aspergers. They’re some of the nicest people, and they also don’t let that limit them. Don’t let it limit you, you’re capable of a lot.

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From reading your sig and this post, it sounds like you’re more of a BlazBlue/GG player. I’m sure you have an account at Dustloop, but if not, that’s the hub for those games, and you should find people over there to play with if you don’t like SF as much.

I can concur with @redrapper though, playing SF has really helped me in my everyday life as well. Just the aspect of playing someone you’ve never played before and having to suss out their patterns in a very short amount of time has helped me tons both as a music producer (especially when I’m working with a singer I’ve never worked with before, figuring out what works best for them, etc) and just in everyday life.

I think in an odd way, fighting games can highlight shortcomings of your personality in a way. If you’re impatient and just rush down all the time, you get killed by someone who can see that shit coming, whereas if you kick back and watch them a bit, be patient and pick your moment to attack, you usually get rewarded for said patience. That’s just one example, but I’ve experienced firsthand the benefits of looking at how you play as an insight into things you need to work on as a person. Sounds crazy but it’s true.

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Yo why are you not on that MeltyBlood, Arcana hearts, Aqua pazza, hell skull girls? You gotta at least play Shin kohime itsas bar bone as fighter can get.

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Well at least the aspergers doesn’t affect appreciation for big-boobed, I mean “strong” female characters. Whatever motivates you man.

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From a logical view doing anything but acquiring food and shelter and eating, drinking and sleeping doesn’t make sense and taking the long view that may or may not even be worthwhile.

Either play fighting games or don’t nobody really cares if you do or don’t, tbh this thread shouldn’t even exist, this section is for newbies wanting to get better, not trolls and whiners.

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Console problems.

Back in the day, the point was to keep your money in play. #OldFart

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You don’t enjoy fighting games. Fighting games is making you miserable instead.

How bout you stop playing fighting games.

End of story?

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I got autism as well & I usually have a hard time understanding the context such as matchup, your option vs opponent’s option & neutral game. One thing that helped me understand that is Yomi Layer because its visual & I usually think in pictures. Also my brain is very slow at processing information from the opponent’s action, tendency, habit & patterns.

If you’re not going to practice, then you shouldn’t compete. It cost time to get better at something. It’s your choice & no one is forcing you to do it. Just because you have a disability doesn’t mean that you can’t do it. If you are not interesting in competing, then you can practice something else or play for fun. What else do you like to do with your free time?

Even if you practice to get better, its going to be very difficult to make progress if you don’t master the basics

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look at marn man, he has to be one of us.
and xian too I think i saw that nigga twitch in a video before not sure which but him also.
Wong seems normal though.
mike ross has to have at least 5% of that.

But way offtopic, getting better at a videogame isn’t necessary to ya if it doesn’t matter but you made a thread about this.
Been stated multiples.

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I have ADHD, My mind is in constant erratic state, its a condition in som retrospect even a limitation i have to deal with, But I found i can still play game competently because I learned to balance my self.I know I can’t go by standard practices how to get better, some stuff you can get guidance and other you will have to simply do trial and error but you have to be in the mind set to believe you can be better. Heck not all fighter are created equal, so while i can be proficient in one doesn’t mean i can be proficient in another.

I highly suggest stepping away from games that frustrates you and play one more to your speed. I had to step away from majority 3d fighters because they demand you memories obtuse amount of tool set while micro managing its mechanics and match ups. That was over whelming, Its not that I couldn’t learned, i could if fully dedicated to it but once i felt uncomfortable and overwhelmed I just stopped. I did’nt have to deal with this in other games and I enjoyed it, but fighter like tekken, Soul calibure, DoA and gundam vs I felt I had no control over my action and was not about to relearn basic because how these game handle control and inputs. granted That doesn’t make these game bad and i can admire people who can do it but Its simply not for me.

If i wasn’t enjoying it then why bother? it but I know i still like playing fighter and just made sure I play fighter where thier more uniform system at works say anime fighter where most Combos chains, rules of engagement are simple and only deviating from the norm subtly ( arcana homing, assisst system, burst, reverse beat, ect)

What probably help me was that my first Competitive fighter was Last blade 2, its a slower pace fighter and most action come with high risk and high reward with the main thing needed to be efficient is spacing and reaction. Once I got comfortable and competent in that i explore other game notice the difference in their meta and develop upon them.

IF concentration is one of your problem then you should probably play fighter were your not doing so much and can focus on something.

Super turbo like game would be ideal for this, by that game where footsie usually dominates and every action comes with level risk and reward system that does;nt over shadow strategy of aspect.,

You have Karnove Revenge, Breakers Revenge, Shin Kohime , Samurai Showdown 2, SF alpha 2, SFHD remix, Pocket fighters, Akasukiblitzkampf, Real bout FF2, Aqua pazaa, last blade 2, Battle fantasia.

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you should try playing smash
i think its a good game for you

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I guess for me the point of going on with fighting games is I feel like even when I lose, I end up with a slightly better understanding of the game. That makes me happy.

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No. That’s one of the dumbest statements I’ve ever heard in my life.

I’ll sum everything up for you - you are a born loser. Everything about your attitude screams that you are a loser in every sense of the word. You don’t have a competitive bone in your body. I could probably rob you by sticking out my hand in the shape of a gun. I bet you can’t even ride a bicycle.

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what if he is wheelchair bound?

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Brolylegs, but his attitude isn’t like that at all.