Why Bother?

Now i know you’re trolling

There isn’t beating logic. Video games in general do not make sense from that high of a logic standpoint. There is nothing gained from playing a video game. It can not be put on a resume. It can only mildly be linked to hand eye coordination, for which there are other and more productive activities.

Coming from a strictly logical standpoint, why are you playing video games at all?
There are other hobbies that can have a direct benefit and will be better uses of your time.

It is because the love for the game and the strive to improve are not only based in a logical realm, it dips into emotion and the foundations of a person’s personality and world view.
If you want a strictly logical hobby, then take up woodworking, writing, cooking, etc… As these hobbies give you something other than a good feeling at the end of the day.

Also; Constant failure=/=a sign to give up. It represents not finding the correct solution to a problem. I have known many scientists and nearly every experiment and research topic comes across countless failures until they find the solution. Cellular Biology would not be what it is today if people gave up just because what they were trying failed over and over.
Hell, look at Stephen King. He was rejected for years and years before a novel was finally published.

One other nitpick; “Reading people has nothing to do with logic. It’s more intuition than everything else.” This is false. While intuition can help and come into play, intuition is also responsible for the biggest errors in Reading someone.
The primary skill is recognizing the patterns that someone uses (and to go on another level, to train your opponent to respond a certain way) and punishing them for their predictability. It is similar to betting in Poker. The math is usually more important.

Sorry, started to rant…

TL;DR-
The motivation is not logical and playing any video game is not a logical hobby as it doesn’t translate into any useful skill set that cannot be gained from other directly useful hobbies.

I think you’re trolling at this point ( good troll btw ) But if you are serious with this reply. This is the last I’m gonna say on this. What is the point of this thread? What are you trying to accomplish? You want a logical reason to get better at fighting games? There isn’t one because like you said it’s just a game. Not everything involves logic. Sometimes people just have a passion for things and can’t explain it. They just can’t help but want to do something and excell at it. Even if it doesn’t seem to make logical sense to. You clearly do not have that passion so just stop trying to “git gud” and just play fighting games at a casual level with buddies. You don’t have to play online and try to be MLG at this to have fun ya know.

kid, these people have given you their reasons for why they play fighting games. if you’re convinced however that there is no point in getting better and it’s not “logical”, just quit playing. no one is putting a gun to your head and quite frankly this whole thread seems like one big troll anyway. there doesn’t always need to be some great philosophical answer for why we do things. i poo…because i have to

This should be sigworthy on EVERY forum.
So true.
What’s the point of living or working or doing anything if you’re going to die someday and there’s no way to avoid it?
What matters isn’t the result.

it’s HOW you live.
It’s the journey that counts. If you only focus on the goal, you feel dejected after a short elation period, once you reach it. Focus on the experience.

And you never know what happens after death (puts on flame suit since I know what someone is going to say).

there’s no right way to live. some say it is about the result, some say the journey, some say it is to reach enlightenment, some say it has no meaning, others say we cant understand the purpose, others say we need it, others dont think about any of these things.

same can be applied to fighting games and the logic of what we do and why. some will say videogames are illogical, that woodworking is logical, where others will say video games are logical and woodworking isnt.

you clearly have your own and rigid opinion of fighting games, so why are you on shoryuken then?

if youre not going to bother

give me the controller

games too please

if you think someone who is good, got there without losing,

you would be wrong

You say there is no logic in getting better at fighting games but that is not true.
Human beings are supposed to live in nature, fighting for survival, collecting edible plants and hunting for meat.
That’s why ever since children play in order to mimic what older people do and to prepare themselves doing the same shit.
You’re become good hunter, you get to fuck more women, cuz skill in hunting translates to the kind of security a woman wishes for her children.

Just because we happen to have a thumb and vocal cords that allowed us to build a society that actually has no need for survival of the fittest, doesn’t mean you get that instinct out of people.
We build constructs in our society that encourage competitive sports, because there’s a need for that on a basic human level.

Aside from that getting better at anything has a lot of benefits for you. You get to meet new people, you get recognition from other people, you get better at problem solving, if you’re doing a physical sport you become more healthy and on top of that you get to do something that you can lose yourself in and forget about your other problems for a limited amount of time.

There is logic in competition from an evolutionary as well as a social standpoint.

You’re argument sucks. If I put someone in a situation and they respond in the same 2-3 ways most of the time, then logically speaking, all I need to do is find an option that covers both or all three situations simultaneously. Yes it might take time and they could think of another response, but then I’d respond by finding a solution to the next problem. What isn’t logical about that process? You must be trolling at this point, your arguments are retarded.

The games themselves are fun to play and the combos are fun to pull off

When someone beats me with some gimmick it just makes me want to get that much better

It’s totally unrealistic to go into any endeavor and expect to be the very best at any of them

I’m at a point where I can go to locals one night a week after work and win around 50% of my matches against anyone there. Lots of goofy shit happens, we laugh about it, it’s fun to compete and try to improve over time

You’re on a forum where 99.99% of the people here are inclined to disagree with you, yet you insist on trying to argue yourself right with a bunch of strangers. Where’s the logic in that? What makes this futile waste of time important to you? Is this, too, not an emotional response to something?

Explain yourself. How is this any different than trying to get better at a game you’ll never master?

I got auts too, can still move my hands and shit. Muscle memory.
If not fun do not play game because not logic.

The only thing that makes me want to get better are strong female characters. Bullet, Mitsuru, hell even I-no to a degree. I guess I can get over this.

I mean street fighter V has R Mika so that’s good news for me. Also ultra has Poison in it too.

For some reason I don’t mind losing with those characters.

The OP has seen the light…

And this guy:

EDIT: They really need a delete comment button.

cuz it’s fun. why stay terrible at something you enjoy, how is that fun

Oh my god if yo salt filled ass can not handle it get off sfv. That’s not how that goes you get better when ya stop complainin and actually put time into stuff. If it fun play it if not there are many other games. Capcom and KI simplify stuff so much and we still see threads like this pop up.

Isn’t he a bad example because he obviously has an incredible amount of innate talent? I would think that a guy beating world class players when he was 13, and who was #1 in the world before the age of 20, isn’t the best example of pushing through losses and defeats.

Lol, he’s probably a good example of why most of us never have a shot at greatness.

Oh and he apparently isn’t autistic at all, if that’s where you were going.

first thing that people need to be taught when going into fighting games is there has to be a loser.