Why aren't Marvel players playing Skullgirls?

[debs]

for me…IPS. i get why its in but at the time i felt like it was limited what i wanted to do. haven’t picked it up since…i realize that the game has evolved and ppl are “free” to do what they want but i haven’t picked it up since i dropped it.
fwiw i played as double/filia.

[Hecatom]

I have to agree that the SG chars lack some sort of Omph behind what they do, is not that they are not powerful, but they don’t seem powerful for the people who are just looking, they certainly have a lot of tools that made them strong characters, but the way that they interact with each other lack the flair that other games have. It is because of that they feel tame compared to other games.

[Celerity]

Skullgirls characters are well-designed, sure, but they just don’t FEEL powerful.

I see a lot of this, which makes sense because Skullgirls is explicitly designed to be a “less broken marvel.” But I think the main problem is that people just aren’t seeing the broken shit that actually happens in this game. The overall level of play isn’t super high yet, but even the high level play that exists is rarely put on youtube or streamed at the moment. The game is getting more attention now so that’s definitely changing, but for now people just need to know what to look for.

It’s a design issue though, has nothing to do with long combos or how good the players are. Skullgirls animations are somewhat cartoonish, and the violence feels a little out of place to me like it was shoehorned into the game. It’s all a bit disjointed. MvC2 and MvC3 both give you the sense that you’re in control of something epic; the movesets are coherent and powerful, you’re inside a comic book for real. MvC3 has a ton of gameplay-related design flaws, but it still excels in this department.

The question is “Why aren’t Marvel players playing Skullgirls?”, so identifying with the character is a big reason, alongside the game speed and size of the cast.

[Cee_Dizzy]

I play Marvel games for nostalgia. SkullGirls was better than Marvel 3, but I gave it up due to the glaring problems, no scene in the game and no patch on Xbox.

[Jack_Frost]

ill play skullgirls if/when the roster hits about 20

[Negative-Zer0]

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Playing SF4 only. I’ve tried all current games BBCSII, KOF13, SF3TSOE, MvC2OE, SF2HDR etc. I dont like them as I like SF4. Then Skullgirls came out, a fighting game made by fighters for fighters. Us was promised a qualitative fighting game with lots of depth, mechanics and a hard learning curve. But what did we got, the game is slow as fuck, there is no hard execution, all contains of chaincancelcombos and double qcf motions, leading into 60s combos. Hell no thx. I rather play SF4 with mainly 4-5 hit combos with require tough links where I can actually play and not put the joystick aside and watch the combos. What I hate about SF4 is the hard knockdown based mixup shit, I really wait for another game which has it I like, but its not here yet.
A view things I like about skullgirls is the fact that the team size is variable, I can directly start playing wiht one character and arent force to learn three at once like in KOF (-> shit). I personally like the atmosphere and characterdesign, it has this kind of end time atmosphere. What I dont like are all the noises, all the squaking and screaming in high female voices, thats one of the reasons I dont play blazblue lol.
But I will give the game another chance when the patch for the xbox comes out, but I feel I will still not like it cause the combos are still too long, I dont want to learn combos in training mode like a retard roboter, its senseless, I hate all the combo videos on the mainpage, fuck long combos. I want to play a game directly, without spending too much time in training mode on combos!!! It should be possible to win a game out of better positioning, better spacing, punishing and judgement, not jus tbecause I am a roboter and can pull out a 60s combo, shit.

Because you can win at skullgirls just by landing one hit.
Because people with those skills you listed are shunned in skullgirls.
Alot of that post made my head hurt.
You say you would rather play sf4 with 4-5 tough link combos (which is subjective, I guess, because most of the shit in sf4 is easy, sure there are a one frame links here and there, but most combos are relatively no problem.) but then you don’t like training mode? So how’d you learn the combo?
Then you say you don’t like the oki game of SF4, which is fine, then you talk about training mode, but last time I checked, no one could win shit in SF4 without training mode.
The game has become a game of setups, and I don’t hear of too many people just picking up their unblockables and safe jumps and OS’es mid match.
How are 3s,mvc2, and sf2(i guess hdr is “current”) current games?
You want a game with short, fast, kind of hard damaging combos and return back to neutral, play vsav.

Lol and the problem with you skullgirls promoters lies within this post. Why is he not allowed to like sf4? why is he automatically wrong? Some people can’t accurately explain why they like a game, they just sorta do. Let them like it. Stop telling them they are wrong for it.

And Vsav as so much bullshit in neutral i don’t think any street fighter player would be bothered to play it.

woah woah guy

I don’t think I ever said he’s wrong for liking SF4, he can like whatever the hell he wants.

I just said his claims are unfounded because they are.
They’re just not true, or are super silly.

If he likes his 4-5 combos that are hard links that’s cool.
Just don’t say they take “less training mode” than a 15 hit chain, because that’s super subjective.
If he doesn’t like the game, that’s cool, just don’t give bullshit reasons.

Hell, I never even told him to play the game.

Hell, when’s the last time I promoted Skullgirls?

I play it, I love it, but I damn sure don’t shove it down anyone’s throats.

P.S. Insulting Vsav’s neutral game?

Nah, fuck that, NOW YOU’RE WRONG.

Please, PLEASE explain how Vsav’s neutral game is more bullshit than Alpha’s (lol) or ST Chun Li or Dhalsim or Sagat, or 3rd Strike parries, or SF4’s awfully skewed jump-in vs. anti air risk reward system plus all the moves and mechanics that shit on fireballs?

Get out.

EDIT:I JUST SAW PSYCHOJOUSH’S POSTS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

lol i PLAY VSAV ALL DAY I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

BBhood, Lordraptor, and qbee, all characters that i have played have the neutral heavily, heavily, heavily, HEAVILY skewed in their favor.

BBhood can jumpin all day for free without worrying about anti-airs
Lord Raptor can just lock you can for free with his absolutley godlike normals
Qbee is just bullshit. i can get one lucky hit and have you guess 50/50 for god knows how long. Also impossible to react to.
Jon talbain is impossible to react to. Also the most brainless mother fucker i have ever seen

The list goes on, and on, and on. I still love the game, but acting like it has now bullshit is lol. I have so much of an easier time dealing with st chun, dhalsim, AND sagat. I’d rather than then sasquatch and fucking bbhood.

[Negative-Zer0]

I have no idea how you’d start playing a game like MVC2/GG/BB without that.

People did it though.

AGainst the cpu so their execution was on point.

[Jack_Frost]

Im confused on people disagreeing with me about my post stating ill play skullgirls if/when the roster hits 20 lol

[MysticRay]

Asking why some Marvel players don’t play SG is like asking why some SG players don’t play Marvel.
Everyone has a different preference, just accept it.

[XthAtGAm3RGuYX]

There was a post I just made in NickRock’s troll thread. I actually intended for it to be here, but somehow the forum fucked up. Ironically I find the post to be more appropriate in there instead.

[venusandeve]

I’m going to say something cruel: if you’re a Marvel x, SFx, GG/BB what have u player, as opposed to being a general FG fan, stick to whatever you’re playing now. We don’t need/want you playing SG.

I’m dead tired of:
People making lists of which characters play like what characters in marvel.
Wanting future DLC characters to play like specific characters from other games.
Wanting specific mechanics in the game (undizzies come to mind).

I say, sod off and let SG be SG. It’ll grow all by itself, not by being a copy of another game.

[MightyMar]

Negative-Zer0 knows whats up. You try dealing with Raptor, Talbain, Q-Bee, and all the other monsters with 1 stock left and all your white life taunting you in the face telling you that their is hope if you can just hold on just 1 second longer.

[SpaceOutNightmare]

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Playing SF4 only. I’ve tried all current games BBCSII, KOF13, SF3TSOE, MvC2OE, SF2HDR etc. I dont like them as I like SF4. Then Skullgirls came out, a fighting game made by fighters for fighters. Us was promised a qualitative fighting game with lots of depth, mechanics and a hard learning curve. But what did we got, the game is slow as fuck, there is no hard execution, all contains of chaincancelcombos and double qcf motions, leading into 60s combos. Hell no thx. I rather play SF4 with mainly 4-5 hit combos with require tough links where I can actually play and not put the joystick aside and watch the combos. What I hate about SF4 is the hard knockdown based mixup shit, I really wait for another game which has it I like, but its not here yet.
A view things I like about skullgirls is the fact that the team size is variable, I can directly start playing wiht one character and arent force to learn three at once like in KOF (-> shit). I personally like the atmosphere and characterdesign, it has this kind of end time atmosphere. What I dont like are all the noises, all the squaking and screaming in high female voices, thats one of the reasons I dont play blazblue lol.
But I will give the game another chance when the patch for the xbox comes out, but I feel I will still not like it cause the combos are still too long, I dont want to learn combos in training mode like a retard roboter, its senseless, I hate all the combo videos on the mainpage, fuck long combos. I want to play a game directly, without spending too much time in training mode on combos!!! It should be possible to win a game out of better positioning, better spacing, punishing and judgement, not jus tbecause I am a roboter and can pull out a 60s combo, shit.

Because you can win at skullgirls just by landing one hit.
Because people with those skills you listed are shunned in skullgirls.
Alot of that post made my head hurt.
You say you would rather play sf4 with 4-5 tough link combos (which is subjective, I guess, because most of the shit in sf4 is easy, sure there are a one frame links here and there, but most combos are relatively no problem.) but then you don’t like training mode? So how’d you learn the combo?
Then you say you don’t like the oki game of SF4, which is fine, then you talk about training mode, but last time I checked, no one could win shit in SF4 without training mode.
The game has become a game of setups, and I don’t hear of too many people just picking up their unblockables and safe jumps and OS’es mid match.
How are 3s,mvc2, and sf2(i guess hdr is “current”) current games?
You want a game with short, fast, kind of hard damaging combos and return back to neutral, play vsav.

Lol and the problem with you skullgirls promoters lies within this post. Why is he not allowed to like sf4? why is he automatically wrong? Some people can’t accurately explain why they like a game, they just sorta do. Let them like it. Stop telling them they are wrong for it.

And Vsav as so much bullshit in neutral i don’t think any street fighter player would be bothered to play it.

woah woah guy

I don’t think I ever said he’s wrong for liking SF4, he can like whatever the hell he wants.

I just said his claims are unfounded because they are.
They’re just not true, or are super silly.

If he likes his 4-5 combos that are hard links that’s cool.
Just don’t say they take “less training mode” than a 15 hit chain, because that’s super subjective.
If he doesn’t like the game, that’s cool, just don’t give bullshit reasons.

Hell, I never even told him to play the game.

Hell, when’s the last time I promoted Skullgirls?

I play it, I love it, but I damn sure don’t shove it down anyone’s throats.

P.S. Insulting Vsav’s neutral game?

Nah, fuck that, NOW YOU’RE WRONG.

Please, PLEASE explain how Vsav’s neutral game is more bullshit than Alpha’s (lol) or ST Chun Li or Dhalsim or Sagat, or 3rd Strike parries, or SF4’s awfully skewed jump-in vs. anti air risk reward system plus all the moves and mechanics that shit on fireballs?

Get out.

EDIT:I JUST SAW PSYCHOJOUSH’S POSTS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

lol i PLAY VSAV ALL DAY I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

BBhood, Lordraptor, and qbee, all characters that i have played have the neutral heavily, heavily, heavily, HEAVILY skewed in their favor.

BBhood can jumpin all day for free without worrying about anti-airs
Lord Raptor can just lock you can for free with his absolutley godlike normals
Qbee is just bullshit. i can get one lucky hit and have you guess 50/50 for god knows how long. Also impossible to react to.
Jon talbain is impossible to react to. Also the most brainless mother fucker i have ever seen

The list goes on, and on, and on. I still love the game, but acting like it has now bullshit is lol. I have so much of an easier time dealing with st chun, dhalsim, AND sagat. I’d rather than then sasquatch and fucking bbhood.

This was literally the most entitled, opinionated dumb piece of shit ever.

I never once said Vsav’s neutral was less bullshit.
I said explain how alot of SF’s neutral isn’t bullshit.

Bb hood being unable to get anti aired is bullshit.
LR’s normals are pretty amazing, and he is certainly top tier, but that is a bold exaggeration.
Everyone puts you in a constant 50/50, QB is amazing at it, but that’s not really the problem.
Talbain impossible to react to…?
I?
What?

You, like, literally said nothing short of complaining about a few vsav character’s options and then said “it’s bullshit”.

Just because you have an easier time dealing with ST Chun Dhalsim and Sagat doesn’t make it less bullshit, and what about the other SF’s?

If you’re not going to talk like a big boy I suggest you stop talking.

@Mightmar : Please tell me you are deep trolling me.

At least in Vsav there are mechanics in place to deal with dumb neutral shit, you pretty much have to hold O.Sagat.

[MightyMar]

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Playing SF4 only. I’ve tried all current games BBCSII, KOF13, SF3TSOE, MvC2OE, SF2HDR etc. I dont like them as I like SF4. Then Skullgirls came out, a fighting game made by fighters for fighters. Us was promised a qualitative fighting game with lots of depth, mechanics and a hard learning curve. But what did we got, the game is slow as fuck, there is no hard execution, all contains of chaincancelcombos and double qcf motions, leading into 60s combos. Hell no thx. I rather play SF4 with mainly 4-5 hit combos with require tough links where I can actually play and not put the joystick aside and watch the combos. What I hate about SF4 is the hard knockdown based mixup shit, I really wait for another game which has it I like, but its not here yet.
A view things I like about skullgirls is the fact that the team size is variable, I can directly start playing wiht one character and arent force to learn three at once like in KOF (-> shit). I personally like the atmosphere and characterdesign, it has this kind of end time atmosphere. What I dont like are all the noises, all the squaking and screaming in high female voices, thats one of the reasons I dont play blazblue lol.
But I will give the game another chance when the patch for the xbox comes out, but I feel I will still not like it cause the combos are still too long, I dont want to learn combos in training mode like a retard roboter, its senseless, I hate all the combo videos on the mainpage, fuck long combos. I want to play a game directly, without spending too much time in training mode on combos!!! It should be possible to win a game out of better positioning, better spacing, punishing and judgement, not jus tbecause I am a roboter and can pull out a 60s combo, shit.

Because you can win at skullgirls just by landing one hit.
Because people with those skills you listed are shunned in skullgirls.
Alot of that post made my head hurt.
You say you would rather play sf4 with 4-5 tough link combos (which is subjective, I guess, because most of the shit in sf4 is easy, sure there are a one frame links here and there, but most combos are relatively no problem.) but then you don’t like training mode? So how’d you learn the combo?
Then you say you don’t like the oki game of SF4, which is fine, then you talk about training mode, but last time I checked, no one could win shit in SF4 without training mode.
The game has become a game of setups, and I don’t hear of too many people just picking up their unblockables and safe jumps and OS’es mid match.
How are 3s,mvc2, and sf2(i guess hdr is “current”) current games?
You want a game with short, fast, kind of hard damaging combos and return back to neutral, play vsav.

Lol and the problem with you skullgirls promoters lies within this post. Why is he not allowed to like sf4? why is he automatically wrong? Some people can’t accurately explain why they like a game, they just sorta do. Let them like it. Stop telling them they are wrong for it.

And Vsav as so much bullshit in neutral i don’t think any street fighter player would be bothered to play it.

woah woah guy

I don’t think I ever said he’s wrong for liking SF4, he can like whatever the hell he wants.

I just said his claims are unfounded because they are.
They’re just not true, or are super silly.

If he likes his 4-5 combos that are hard links that’s cool.
Just don’t say they take “less training mode” than a 15 hit chain, because that’s super subjective.
If he doesn’t like the game, that’s cool, just don’t give bullshit reasons.

Hell, I never even told him to play the game.

Hell, when’s the last time I promoted Skullgirls?

I play it, I love it, but I damn sure don’t shove it down anyone’s throats.

P.S. Insulting Vsav’s neutral game?

Nah, fuck that, NOW YOU’RE WRONG.

Please, PLEASE explain how Vsav’s neutral game is more bullshit than Alpha’s (lol) or ST Chun Li or Dhalsim or Sagat, or 3rd Strike parries, or SF4’s awfully skewed jump-in vs. anti air risk reward system plus all the moves and mechanics that shit on fireballs?

Get out.

EDIT:I JUST SAW PSYCHOJOUSH’S POSTS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

lol i PLAY VSAV ALL DAY I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

BBhood, Lordraptor, and qbee, all characters that i have played have the neutral heavily, heavily, heavily, HEAVILY skewed in their favor.

BBhood can jumpin all day for free without worrying about anti-airs
Lord Raptor can just lock you can for free with his absolutley godlike normals
Qbee is just bullshit. i can get one lucky hit and have you guess 50/50 for god knows how long. Also impossible to react to.
Jon talbain is impossible to react to. Also the most brainless mother fucker i have ever seen

The list goes on, and on, and on. I still love the game, but acting like it has now bullshit is lol. I have so much of an easier time dealing with st chun, dhalsim, AND sagat. I’d rather than then sasquatch and fucking bbhood.

This was literally the most entitled, opinionated dumb piece of shit ever.

I never once said Vsav’s neutral was less bullshit.
I said explain how alot of SF’s neutral isn’t bullshit.

Bb hood being unable to get anti aired is bullshit.
LR’s normals are pretty amazing, and he is certainly top tier, but that is a bold exaggeration.
Everyone puts you in a constant 50/50, QB is amazing at it, but that’s not really the problem.
Talbain impossible to react to…?
I?
What?

You, like, literally said nothing short of complaining about a few vsav character’s options and then said “it’s bullshit”.

Just because you have an easier time dealing with ST Chun Dhalsim and Sagat doesn’t make it less bullshit, and what about the other SF’s?

If you’re not going to talk like a big boy I suggest you stop talking.

@Mightmar : Please tell me you are deep trolling me.

At least in Vsav there are mechanics in place to deal with dumb neutral shit, you pretty much have to hold O.Sagat.

Oh I thought we were talking about Anakaris? Carry on… Backdashes into a wall.

[IglooBob]

there are mechanics to deal with dumb neutral shit in most games. it’s not like 3s and SF4 neutral are lacking tools to deal with bullshit. so what is the point of this side discussion again?

[EMSmixup]

I’m going to say something cruel: if you’re a Marvel x, SFx, GG/BB what have u player, as opposed to being a general FG fan, stick to whatever you’re playing now. We don’t need/want you playing SG.

I’m dead tired of:
People making lists of which characters play like what characters in marvel.
Wanting future DLC characters to play like specific characters from other games.
Wanting specific mechanics in the game (undizzies come to mind).

I say, sod off and let SG be SG. It’ll grow all by itself, not by being a copy of another game.

you’re out of your mind if you think an indie fighting game grows on its own. Gotta put in work and build the scene, do your best to attract new players. This thread has been a horrible representation of the player base so far, dismissive comments like your own aren’t going to help in any way. Keep lying to yourself and things won’t go well for your community.

[NickRocks]

there are mechanics to deal with dumb neutral shit in most games. it’s not like 3s and SF4 neutral are lacking tools to deal with bullshit. so what is the point of this side discussion again?

this is a less obvious troll thread

[venusandeve]

This thread has been a horrible representation of the player base so far, dismissive comments like your own aren’t going to help in any way.

the srk effect.

[mutantmagnet]

Despite hearing “Magnetic Tempest!” and “Magnetic Shockwave!” thousands of times, it never gets old. Skullgirls characters are well-designed, sure, but they just don’t FEEL powerful.

Get of my face.

Gotcha.

For starters. I get what you mean about the heft in their attacks but Skullgirls has powerful feeling attacks even if you don’t necessarily like the playstyle of the characters that are stylized to have that the most (painwheel and cerebella)

It’s a design issue though, has nothing to do with long combos or how good the players are. Skullgirls animations are somewhat cartoonish, and the violence feels a little out of place to me like it was shoehorned into the game.

This statement is coming from the person who is such a big fan of Persona (s)he has one of the characters as his/her avatar.

[NickRocks]

but mvc2 is just so rude