Why are wake-up supers frowned upon?

i don’t have a problem with people that do it all the time since it’s free rape.

one could argue that 3s at a level is a guessing game. but wake up parries turn it more into a guessing game which i really don’t prefer.

it does happen a lot to characters like alex who don’t have too much of a low threat, or 12 since a good player really isn’t afraid of what he can do.

wake up supers cover high, low, and throw meaties. wake up parry only covers 1 of them. at the cost of a meter though of course.

most characters that wake up with parry are like, urien, Q sometimes (after he has enough taunts), makoto, yun (i see it often). probably more but i can’t think of any right now.

but wake up parry is just annoying. i guess it’s the feeling that always comes to my mind which is “wow lucky guess”

That’s true. As a Necro player, people always parry my attacks on their wake up and I eat combos all day long. I do agree wake up parry is annoying, but it’s something you have to overcome by mixing it up.

If you are consistently successful or the means you use allow you to win, then ride that shit until it doesn’t work anymore, adapt to the new problem, and repeat.

Playing differently because people are bitching is sort of counter intuitive because people tend to bitch when they lose…so you’re probably doing things right.

In the short run, I don’t think anyone is arguing otherwise. However it’s good to build up an arsenal of wake up options other than wake up super so you face someone who does adapt, you don’t get stomped on. But yeah, if it works, it works. It’s your opponent’s fault for not learning.

So much talk about the wakeup super any opinions on mixing up with opening round supers such as ShinHado?

Personally, I sometimes buffer QCFx2 at the start of the round so that if my opponent whiffs a move with long recovery or does something like Yun’s shoulder or EX mantis slash, then I can try to 1-button super them on reaction.

But deciding to do a super without waiting to see what they do first is almost always a bad idea, imo. (Except for Genei-Jin vs certain characters, obviously.)

Yeah I totally know it’s risky but once you’ve fought someone a couple of times can’t you just smell that whiff in the air? haha

No actually, I don’t use my sense of smell at all. I do it strictly on-reaction: no psychic powers are invoked.

Some people say you should super on wakeup if you see an attack. What a bunch of bullshit. If you can see the attack why would you super through it. Parry it and hand out your most damaging combo rofl.

Don’t make no mf-in sense anywayz.

what if the super will do more damage than a combo? What if you straight up suck at parrying? It’s not BS to super when you see a chance. If it’s a combo based super then yes, combo into it, but for supers such as gigas breaker, magnetic storm, and etc what’s so bad about activating it when you KNOW it will connect? Using magnetic storm I can take out 40% of my opponents life just because they let out a loose attack on my wake up.

Meh wake up super could care less.

If it workd it works, wakeup in this game is about taking risk since doing safe things like meaty crossup arent available to most characters inthis game.

wake up super is usually simply not worth it, as has been stated several times already. there are occasions when it’s nice tought, especially if you have a safe wake up super.

remy can do ex RRF and cancel the first hit into SA1 for a completely safe wake up that pushes the opponent half screen away. usually worth the meterburning if you’re facing dudley or someone else that can almost instantly kill you if your in the corner.

I’m no pro, but wake up Shoryuken does not beat meaties (Ken’s standing roundhouse, Yun/Yang’s palm, etc.). His wake up reversal super does on the other hand.

I like to do Ken’s wake up super since the invincibility beats almost anything (*almost). The only downside is that it’s mad risky. I can predict the opponent into falling for it about 50% of the time–which is fine for casuals by my standards.

I never seen this in any match but I discoverd that wakeup elenas life regain has invincibility on wakeup. If done on wakeup anything that the oponent does will go trough it even ragin demon

wakeup shoryu beats like 70% of meaty moves O.o…im fairly certain the only ones that will beat it clean, no trade, are the “close” moves like with akuma hes got far mk and the close mk, or ken far mp close mp…and it can still be beaten if theyre meaty timing was bad. wakeup shoryus arent the best idea, not unless you know.

ppl can see wakeup attacks…i have. i cant consistantly, you have to be fast as the devil, it takes alot of practice but i have done it, and to answer you use a super and not a parry because once youve seen it and activated your super has them, 100% no bs. if you parry its still a guess parry cus youre now picking one of 2 options slows you down by 50%. i mean…see and drum or see think about is this a move i gota parry high or low and then parry before it hits you? gl with that

If the person you are playing is dumb enough to stand next to you on wakeup, as -HUGO- with -gigas fucking breaker Super art- and a fucking -full meter-, than that person is dumb as fuck shit and a little bitch.

Oh and you don’t suck. Remember, the first rule to getting better in fighting games is to realize, like Neo in the matrix, “there is no cheap”. No such thing. Doesn’t exist. And if your opponent is bitching than he is unquestionable shittier than you, so feel good about that :slight_smile:

I don’t always wake up super… but when I do…
no wait, I always wake up super, my bad.

I always assumed it was so telegraphed, that people would know how to bang out of it or defend against it. But when I see someone walking in on me on offense, I do it.

Also, I’m not all that good to begin with so I tend to flail a bit…

*this is in 3S mostly… and Super Turbo… and Alpha.

Holy Necrobump Batman.

It was literally the first thing that popped up when I was searching 'Wake up super". I didn’t even realize how old it was. I thought it said 8 days old, not years.