Pretty sloppy reasoning. While the end result may be the same, the reasoning is poor. The tier list could change dramatically due to the absence of those characters as two of them are great zoning characters. Honda may end up jumping a few spots because two of his worst matchups are now gone.
Balrog is top tier? When did this happen? Funny how nobody says Seth.
…Why would anyone think Seth? Maybe if someone could play literally perfect, and not make a single mistake, seth would be great, but that logic applies to any and every character in the game.
Even though Seth can get randomed out easily, he still has an easier time winning on average than most characters.
I don’t really consider Seth more of a threat than anyone higher than Vega. The only reason he was high on the first tier list was because no one knew how to fight him. I think he’ll be much lower on the next one
Subby.
I really didn’t want to respond to this thread, but…
How can people not know better than this by now? Seth is NOT a great character in practical terms. He’s good, yes, but not A or B+ tier.
Would probably be mid without current juggernauts. He loses to like, one bnb >> turtle from akuma, any random ultra setup from rufus, a trade or headbutt from gief…
Example: Get bulldogged into the corner, gief is slightly less than half a screen away with meter, just inside unsafe boom zone. He can kara EX glove you on reaction or anticipation (he has enough health to afford to guess) for knockdown/vortex if you boom. He can headbutt on reaction if you jump off the wall and c.kkk if you try to jump in on him. What do you do that doesn’t risk 1/2 health or more?
Just too much risk, not enough reward to warrant a top dawg spot. By no means bad, though.
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imo. grain of salt with every post.
Seth will practically never lose to Gief
This guy speaks the truth. Seth is such a gimmicky character , The matches are always one way or the other , either you dominate them or they dominate you, you get randomed out SO many times just because of one mistake , or one mis timed jump etc. IMO he shouldnt of even been in the roster, a boss character with low health is not a good idea…
Definitely Cammy.
If there was no Gief, Rufus, Akuma, Viper, Seth, Guile, Blanka, Dictator or Honda either.
Balrog isn’t better than Akuma, so this topic already started off on bad footing.
IN MY OPINION
- Sagat
- Ryu
- Akuma
- Balrog
- Rufus
- Zangief
- Seth
Are the best in the game. Ryu and Akuma I have at number 2 because who is better depends on who you talk to. I feel the same way about Balrog and Rufus. I got Zangief and Seth next because the 5 characters above them have a lot less counter picks(if none at all in the case of Sag/Ryu/Akuma)
After those 6, Honda, Chun Li, Abel and C.Viper come next. The order, AGAIN IN MY OPINION, would be
- Abel
- Chun Li
- C.Viper
10.Honda
So, if Ryu, Akuma and Sagat weren’t in the game, things get switched up. Zangief is now without 2 of his losing match ups, so maybe he becomes number 1. However, Rufus now loses ALL of his bad match ups EXCEPT Gief, so maybe he becomes number 1? Balrog now has no disadvantage fights EXCEPT Gief and Seth. It’d be one of those 3. I’d go with Zangief.
Actually Sean was sort of the Dan of SF3 and he was top (not god though) in SF3:2nd Impact. If you doubt that he was the Dan of SF3 play him in 3s…
You see he’s only considered the Dan of SF3 because of Third Strike. Before that, he was just a new character who happened to be top tier.
It’s probably because Capcom remembered he was supposed to be a joke character so they nerfed him for 3s. His dp messes you up in second impact.
Since around last November. That’s when Balrog started winning more tourneys than anyone except for Sagat and Ryu and he hasn’t really stopped since. (okay, some months he’s fourth, and some months he’s second but whatever). Yes, he doesn’t get much love in theory fighting, but in the real world he does very well.
more interesting concept is whether ryu would still be top tier/completely overused if he was a charge character…
Who would be top tier if there was no ryu, ken, sagat, akuma, sakura, blanka, dhalsim, chun, boxer,claw, dictator, fei long, cammy, gouken, gen, rose, guile, honda, geif, abel, rufus, viper, fuerte, or dan?
Yeb’s gen =)
No way… Dictator’s not that big of a roadblock for Cammy. It’s pretty hard for him to get in since she can shut out aerial options on reaction with thrust kick.
…why would you say Balrog? He’s definitely not third.
I have a theory that more people think Balrog is top tier because they play exclusively online, and their concurrent gay porn downloads cause their connection to lag making it impossible to block a dash punch on reaction.