The military needs to create at least one special task force devoted to infiltrating and taking apart the furry menace from the inside out. They are basically the next isis.
I’m nobody. You shouldn’t care. But why does it matter anyway? The post isn’t about me. Its about an idea for a way to make the big tournaments interesting for people who don’t play the game.
Moving on…
If you guys don’t want to talk about it and would rather just “cause drama”, I’ll humor you…just this once. Enjoy!
I see your response as a defensive reaction to an idea by which you feel threatened. The idea of your little corner of the world getting overrun by the mainstream, the same mainstream that kicked you to that corner, is scary because everyone will find out how uninteresting and lacking personality you are.
Your post count suggests you’ve made a reputation for yourself and have a lot of your selfworth invested in how you are perceived in the FGC. I don’t know or care who you are and neither will anyone else after the FGC is no longer contained to internet forums and LAN parties. If saying tl;dr and reducing the conversation from an intellectual exchange of ideas to emotional bickering and personal attacks is all you’re good at, you should feel threatened by the ideas shared in the OP.
I’m not looking for personal recognition. I’m not talking about documentaries for every player. All I’m saying is that the more you know about the players you’re watching compete, the more interesting the match will be to watch, especially if you don’t play the game. If the players and stories are interesting enough, the game being played hardly matters. The stream producers could get and keep more viewers if they took advantage of this.
Ice Road Truckers. Truck driving is very boring, but the show was interesting, even to non-ice road truckers. Why?
Professional Wrestling. The level of competition is so low that they aren’t even really wrestling, but its still interesting to watch. Why?
These day-long streams with commentators droning on, doing there best to be entertaining and informative, are not at all interesting to watch (for people that don’t play). Why?
Ain’t nobody got time fo dat. Popular pros get beat all the time by practical nobodies. It happens. They shouldn’t suddenly become e-famous just because they make top 8 once.
If nobody has time ‘fo dat’ then the FGC is doomed. Growing the casual audience should be the most important thing to members of the FGC if they want the tournaments, prizes, and publicity to continue increasing. There are only so many people who will find the game itself interesting, and most of us are already here. They rest of the masses need drama and back stories to hold their interest. They need reasons to care, so give them some.
The fgc has survived long enough regardless of bullshit you are talking about.
You trying to turn this shit into reality tv drama for what? The casuals and the masses matter because why? The back story is motherfuckers put in decades of work to get good at what they do, and have been doing so without sponsors, without fuckwits wanting camera time, and with out Mary Jo Camel toe giving two shits about any drama that it might have held.
Instead of concentrating on the players they should you know concentrate on the game, teach people about the games and the history of them and THEN show the amount of dedication players put into it. That’s what football use to do, it sure as fuck wasn’t the shit show you are trying to bring(wrastling and ice road truckers? Kill yurself). They could show the tech that we use and how that shit has developed, and where it came from. Different gear used, stuff that players collect, all that jazz. History of consoles, arcade games, all the rarities included in such. The stories of the characters and how they changed and all the shit that made them popular.
Basically all the shit that got US interested in the scene, which I guarantee you had nothing to do with drama with your old fear mongering ass trying to get the scene to sell out, cracker plz.
Yes. Sell out. That’s exactly what needs to happen. SFV wouldn’t even exist if Capcom hadn’t already sold out to Sony.
The Ice Road Truckers thing was just an example of something nobody is interested in made interesting by brilliant producers. Imagine your non-gamer girlfriend is channel surfing and happens to land on EVO 2017. All the tech, gear, collections, whatever, won’t keep her watching when the commercials come on, but an underdog story or a dramatic rivalry might.
I agree that its not what FGC members want to happen, but if it doesn’t, fighting games will go the way of roller derby and arena football. Sure, some hardcore fans still enjoy it, but nobody cares and nobody ever will. The casual interest goes away, the sponsors go away, the money goes away, the big tournaments dry up, the scene shrinks back to the size of the 3rd Strike era.
I’d personally like to see EVO 2017 and beyond held in sold out stadiums with million dollar plus prize pools. That’s never going to happen without the mainstream, and the mainstream doesn’t care about fighting games, at all.
Its easy to shoot down an idea. How about challenging yourself and coming up with a better one instead?
How does that benefit the community? As is certain local scenes have trouble getting people out. The main issue we have, and that we’ve been having, is getting people out of their homes.
Bigger pay days do nothing to really help the community.
What TC needs to understand is that a lot of us simply don’t give a fuck, we’re there to play not to listen to the life story of David in the top 8 who works 25 hours a day to support his 5 younger siblings and how the prize money would really help go towards his dream of setting up a canal boat racing league.
If a venue has sufficient power points, chairs, tables, internet for streaming and exits that don’t trip the sodding electrics when someone goes out of the fire exit then it’s good enough, it ain’t worth doing the same shit in a fancier place if it means selling out and compromising the important thing, which is playing the fighting games we love.
Hardcore groups are fine, weeklies with dedicated regulars are brilliant bigger tournaments are still possible without the casuals as long as you are sensible about picking the venue.
A big group of people that is only big because of casuals with a passing interest in the scene and little interest in the games themselves is shit, it’s just a small group with a crowd around it and with that said I’d rather keep the small group without compromising anything for the crowd.
It was a big topic at the time. They went console exclusive with Sony, causing a lot of xbox fans to cry betrayal and speculate that Street Fighter would only do half as well with half the console coverage. As an xbox owner at the time, I made the jump to PC and haven’t really looked back, personally.
Anyway, it was quite widely circulated that Sony was bankrolling some of the production and they’ve been prominant sponsors at a lot of conventions and tournaments since.
It’s an old argument, but I saw it as a smart, modern move at the time, especially since they were offering cross platform play - Microsoft had beef with x-platform at the time.
Rumors were spreading that Street Fighter was dying for good, Ultra was their final breath, hell, even that Capcom were closing down altogether. This is only a year ago now and it already sounds like ancient history haha. Hindsight is a funny thing.
You can call it selling out, but I personally see it as a mark of recognition for fighting game fans, not that they’d ever ask for one, but Sony/Capcom saw an opportunity that potentially gave street fighter a new set of legs.
You could turn the FGC into the WWE but the problem is most players have the charisma of a jellyfish. Exceptions exist like Mike Ross, Snake Eyes and others but they are the exception not the rule.
Give mike and Snake Eyes entrance music and let them do promos and see if it grows into something.