[whining thread] Man why is Sagat too good is every game?

i want an animated av with Sagat doing his “crossed arms while laughing” win pose with a Burger King crown on his head.

Yep, godlike in SF1 - something like a 2-hit kill (even 3 fireballs can kill).

Weaknesses: he can’t judge distances very well. Also, he’s a big target. CE-Ken’s 4-fierce works on him but not on most other characters who are not as tall.

Meh, I sometimes feel he has a ton of really useful tools, like one too many… but he is but a man. He can be beaten.

It just so happens that for most of the other characters, it takes a good amount of effort to discover how to beat him, and then implement that in a match.

…where the fuck do you live, son?

ST? He’s top 3 or 4.

CvS2? top 2

Alpha? top- to top-mid

Same can be said about all the Shotos.

Not “All”, but you can say that about at least one per game… Akuma has been inconsistent throughout. Ryu has been inconsistent as well.

Well, im based on GGPO and Tournaments, sagat’s super on ST is bad… if we talk about O.Sagat on ST or Sagat on HDRemix well that’s different.

Stop being a technical ass. Thank you.

He’s talking about ST Sagat not O. Sagat.

Ok… i don’t want to be a technical ass.
Yes he’s pretty broken, in hands of a solid player =)
He’s not like akuma who anyone can go and pick him up doing airfireballs.

He was pretty bad in M.U.G.E.N.

oh wait

It may have something to do with him being the strongest fighter in the world or something like that. That seems to be the only real consistency in the street fighter canon so I’m cool with it.

Man, SF1 Sagat does damage just by walking into you. What an asshole.

And his lack of depth perception only makes him hit harder.

More seriously, they seriously need to nerf his fireballs or damage more often. Just give him a more solid weakness then just “well, theoretically he’s big and slow.” He’s not any slower than Ryu.

cut off a leg.

Man, that would make his sprite mirroring even more hilarious.

Sometimes I think Capcom makes characters based on appearances. “Oh, we should make Sagat built like a brick shithouse because he looks like he’s built like a brick shithouse.”

“Chun-Li? She’s a girl! Nerf her health!”

I always used to think Sagat was worthless before I showed up on SRK. lol.

alpha 3 he was not top, cvs1 i heard he was ok, svc he wasnt top, though geese an zero ownd everyone

Well Sagat in all of his glory has never made it to God tier status. He’s always been beatable. You have to change your gameplay around him, but that’s with every character. Zangief is another strong and big character who does tons of damage but takes little in return.

The reason why people rarely complain about Zangief is because it’s pretty obvious you need to stay away from him. Sagat can damage you full screen, so pepople think hes cheap. I know I did years ago.

I first started to learn about spacing, footsies, and distances. And I eventually became somewhat of a Sagat killer. I’ve been playing Guile since HF days (I occasionally used him in CE). It’s always been Guile’s worst matchup next to Vega. But I don’t know, I’m so familiar with Sagat character design and options, it’s one of the matchups I enjoy the most.

BTW, Sagat was only mid tier in Alpha 2, and I don’t believe he was that good in Alpha 1, but that goes for anyone who wasn’t named Guy. lol

Do they sprite mirror in HDR? I didn’t notice… but I mean… they don’t in 3S… hmm