It can’t just be new, it has to be good. I have real doubts about KOFXII and it’s longevity.
SF4 series is the best bet right now.
Uh, how exactly did I prove that?
My point is, a new KOF game isn’t going to make a difference. I mean, doesn’t one get released like once a year? North America doesn’ care about KoF for the most part. Why would this one be received any differently?
And the FGC IS growing, it’s just that it’s hard to tell if you’re part of the SFC because we haven’ gotten a new game in so long. Hell, new FG scenes have been formed ever since the release of SF3. The FGC is NOT struggling. I don’t see why so many people think it is.
right so we should play what people consider new and hot but is really just hot garbage
since when did shit being new mean it was good?
what better way to fucking ruin the fighting game community even further than to play the newest fighter when most of the new fighters the last few years are all ass
doesnt matter if the game is 10 years old if it still keeps peoples interest and is fun to play
There are new and young players playing, it’s just that you won’t see them at the arcade. Everyone just waits for DAT CONSOLE release nowadays. Going to the arcade and seeking comp is a thing of the past. Waiting for DAT ONLINE is the new thing with kids these days.
Kids have no chance at advanced fighting games and kids don’t have a car to drive to an arcade.
Most kids either pick an easy game like Brawl to learn or if they want to get good at an advanced game like Marvel vs Capcom 2 or Street Fighter their only choice is to get the console version and to practice a lot.
Right now the FGC is already very console based. As kids get older and better at games I think they will also start going to arcades once in a while but the FGC in 5 years will mainly be using consoles and not arcades.
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I think fighting games in the wake of things like GGPO games will become viable online. Never replacing offline play or tournaments, but becoming something that you can really cut your teeth in and get into the game.
Also, I do think it’s nice, that even though it’s somewhat spurred by people going “Ooo new Capcom games!” that there are people branching out and trying new things, you have people pushing obscure/overlooked games like World Heroes Perfect, and people are playing it, and SNK in the last few years has gone from hotel rooms to actually being held as official tournaments in places. (The numbers are dwarfed by Capcom numbers but still.)
I hope the trend continues and you have people being a lot more open to playing a lot of stuff. I never understood the divisive hate in the community, but it’s not as strong, at least in my observation as it used to be. There is a thread for MK vs DC and while a random person comes in to shit on it, mostly the conversation there is about playing the game (whining included).
I think fighting game tournaments stay relevant, but I really don’t have any idea how much bigger they become.
I do think it grows as the community has a rather good retention rate once people get going and the community accepts a rather large age range with no real problems.
We’ll all be playing Super Street Fighter 4: Double Dutch Remix - Yes We Still Refuse To Put Dudley In It.
In 5 years Japanese Arcades will be starting to die off as well, they’ve already peaked.
We’re heading towards an exclusively console environment, which will make online play more important.
I suspect in 5-10 years we’ll have real online tournies with entry fees.
New blood will still come, though not in large quantities, and there will not be a ton of new fighters made. Dojin fighters will become more diversified, and their gameplay will broaden. It’s possible that the PC becomes the new FG platform of choice.
The online arena is the new arcades.
You do realize Japan is a totally different culture right? And let’s not forget that arcades still make good profit out there. They’re far from dying out.
exactly
all they use console for is training mode then its back to the arcade to use that new shit
which is the answer i got when i asked them
We’ll take flying cars to floating arcades, and eating meals in pill form.
Yeah the arcades might be mostly gone in America, but it’s quite the opposite in Japan. I’m living in Japan right now and there’s still lines for fighting games at the arcades near my house, particularly for new stuff like SF4, Tekken, and Blazblue, but also sometimes for older stuff.
The Arcade industry in Japan has shown signs of peaking- in some of the more rural areas of Japan some arcades have even closed.
I don’t think the arcade is going away immediately, but the signs are there, especially if the economic downturn hits Japan severely.
We will be playing fighting games.
we will be on the internet.
i actually think it’s pretty easy to introduce new people to fighting games - what’s hard is keeping them around and getting them to see that the games are about more than button mashing. i’ve actually shown the sirlin tutorial vids to a couple of friends who were actually shocked to see that there was so much to these games…after proceeding to explain that such a video was just scratching the surface, they fall into one of two camps - they’re interested to learn more or they’re intimidated by the games. such a reaction is perfectly natural, fighting games aren’t for everyone. i’m also a go player, who runs a local club, and things are much the same way if i explain the game to people…some people like it, some people don’t. what really, really helps is getting the new players to play other new players.
5 years from now? well, i don’t think the community will significantly shrink. but i don’t really think it will grow that much either unless we actively introduce the game to new players, and figure out a way to do it that isn’t intimidating to them while still exposing them to the potential depth of the games.
one thing i can recall is using the EX+ alpha disc with its mission practice mode, getting a couple of new players to try that, because it does teach some essential combo/special move skills in a fun and well presented way. i really wish HD remix and SF4 had such a feature, as well as a CCC2 style tutorial vid as well.
Wow, so they have peaked? What are people thinking, that something can extend forever in a limited world? That usually means you will reach a constant number which floats around a bit but unless something dramatic happens, it will stay there. You call that “stable market”.
Here it seems stable means “0”. People lack the love of seriously gaming nd arcades :sad:
God, I hope so.