Gaming feminism:
Well legally, as we have already been over.
Socially they are both the pursued and choosers between genders, getting the benefit of being courted. If you dont think this is a perk ask yourself if you were out of work would you rather have companies pursueing you to work for them or have to run around applying to tons of jobs with uncertainty.
Work wise I believe women are now more employed than males despite that anatomical differences makes them less productive workers in the long run.
Can you list why males have it good in america?
For work there is a sort of point to be made there as many corporations will often-times want to make it seem so clear that they’re “not sexist” and that they’ll hire women, that they wind up hiring more women than men, and actually will hire a woman in some cases in order to appear better in preference to hiring a man. This of course is ignoring that in war, traditionally men have died by the higher numbers, and that in case of accidents men are expected to let the women evacuate first, and in times of starvation, the men are expected to starve more.
Dude, you got your cap on backwards and your shit’s all fucked up. If your thought process were accurate, you wouldn’t be able to explain things that are not true.
That is, women are not more employed (in the United States). It’s not even close. They do have a lower unemployment rate, because a larger proportion of women are not in the labor force.
The companies’ analogy is poor. Women are the hunted, rather than the hunters. As a guy it is pretty awesome, I decide who I want to pursue and then make my move. That’s it. Women are the pursued, so they get tons of unwanted attention along with the occasional guy they actually are interested in. Not really an advantage.
Where r u pulling this info from? Also is this all u got?
- Women are paid less for doing the same work/same job on average.
- A man who sleeps with tons of women is a stud, a woman who sleeps with tons of men is a whore.
- Women are much much more likely to be victims of sexual crimes (rape)
- Women are more likely to be molested as children.
- Women are much much more likely to be victims of violent crime.
- Women are more likely to be victims of domestic abuse.
- Women are less likely to be considered for high power positions. Though there are many people who don’t discriminate, there is still bias against minorities and women from some and that affects their chances at promotions, etc.
- Cultural norms/media dictate women wear make up on dates/formal occasions/even day to day. Make up ages the face, is bad for skin, and of course takes time to apply.
- As a guy I can eat whatever the fuck I want, the ideal for men is a medium muscular build. For women the ideal is being very skinny with curves, so many women can’t eat what they want. They skip meals, restrain themselves from high calorie foods often, and
many struggle with eating disorders. - Women are much more likely to face sexual harassment/groping at school, work, etc.
Just a very few of the reasons.
Statistically speaking, isn’t it true that most women (applies to men too) receive sexual harassment at work from the same gender?
5, 7, 8 and 9 are complete bullshit or women enforcing shit on themselves.
Haha if only we could actually enforce that on American women… Your whole list is lulz but I’m too tired right now to address each and every one.
1. Women are paid less for doing the same work/same job on average.
Nope. Women take more days off (maternity leave etc) and work more part time jobs. If a man and a woman do the same job with the EXACT same hours they’ll be paid to same.
2. A man who sleeps with tons of women is a stud, a woman who sleeps with tons of men is a whore.
The term ‘man whore’ is being used more often these days and the social stigma of women sleeping with a bunch of guys is lessening. Funnily enough the term whore is mostly used by women to shame other women.
5. Women are much much more likely to be victims of violent crime.
Lol…just lol
6. Women are more likely to be victims of domestic abuse.
Not by as much as you’d think.
7. Women are less likely to be considered for high power positions. Though there are many people who don’t discriminate, there is still bias against minorities and women from some and that affects their chances at promotions, etc.
Maybe they’re just not qualified enough. Also if they plan to have kids that could affect how dependable they are.
8. Cultural norms/media dictate women wear make up on dates/formal occasions/even day to day. Make up ages the face, is bad for skin, and of course takes time to apply.
The exact same goes for men. Shaving takes time as well and can damage the skin.
9. As a guy I can eat whatever the fuck I want, the ideal for men is a medium muscular build. For women the ideal is being very skinny with curves, so many women can’t eat what they want. They skip meals, restrain themselves from high calorie foods often, and
many struggle with eating disorders.
For a muscular build you can’t exactly eat ‘whatever the fuck you want’ you need to be on a semi-strict diet and put loads of time into the gym. Women can eat more if their willing to put in the time and effort to burn it off. Unfortunately many girls I know complain about ‘hating exercise’.
With numbers 3 through 6, while being statistically true, are based off of physical traits and that women are naturally physically stronger. While I see the point you’re trying to make, attempting to put the blame on men for our genetic construct deterring some people from committing some acts on us and having them wish to do those things more to women, is just incorrect since I’m pretty sure none of us are in control of how humans grow or develop. The fault on 3, 4, 5, and 6, goes with the rapists, molesters, and abusers, not on random guys that have nothing to do with those.
And on the subject of the work and employment comment, while I’m Canadian and not American, I can think of numerous counts of women getting hired for positions over equally capable men to “fill their quota” and have spoken with former managers of places that actually have talked about their views on “the need for it”. I mean hell, if you look at restaurants, and stores, you can’t honestly tell me the majority of employees aren’t women.
I think people have already answered most so I’m just going to add perspective where I can.
2- Yeah the double standard exists but it also exists in reverse too. If a male doesn’t sleep with anyone he is stigmatized as much as a girl who sleeps with too many men. He’s looked at as weird or less of a man.
3- Is this actually true? I could of sworn I’ve read that through prison sexual crimes the #s are pretty even.
6- Domestic abuse against males is grossly under reported. Women often get very physical with men when upset but most men won’t report a woman messed him up. Men don’t have constant support groups like women do in this case.
8- I don’t believe that’s true. I know for one I like someones natural looks. Besides that points if you want to get into the game of what women have to do to attract males vs what males have to do to attract females… I don’t believe that’s a point you can win
9- No fking way. Fatties and crack skinny girls still get pursued in a way that vastly out of shape males never see unless they are rich/famous(inside that less than 1% males).
10- Women are also much more capable of using sex as a weapon or tool to get what they want. It’s a double edged sword.
For the others, I don’t have anything to add besides whats already been said above me here.
Difference in productivity and hours worked is smaller than the pay gap.
I have no idea, but that would be some pretty fucked up shit, too. I don’t know how you argue that behavior like that is the product of a fair society.
Setting aside that the threat of rape is way stronger than whatever you have in mind, how?
I just want to make some points here:
Women are more likely to be victims of certain types of crime, but for those same crimes, women are also less likely to serve jail time. Men always, always do more jailtime, and don’t even get me started on how ridiculously biased a court is when it comes to child custody.
Also, make up ages the face? Guess what ages the skin more? UB RAYS. WHICH COME FROM THE SUN. (note: I do mean UB, not UV.)
And women are paid less for many many socio-economic reasons. An economist had enough evidence to talk about this to make an entire book out of it. But simply put, on average women take more time off, and less like to do as much overtime, and men don’t have maternity leave. If you’re talking middlemanagement and above then you’re most of the time just flat out wrong. 20 years ago, you’d probably be right about most companies/organisations, but today you just wouldn’t be. Not in the majority of developed countries. If you’re the same rank as a person doing the exact same job within the exact same company, you’ll get a specific base amount of money as a result of the position. Often wages are negotiable, especially after a certain level in many companies.
It should be said that women aren’t any less likely than anyone else to be considered for a “high power” position, because those jobs are highly, highly competitive and are based purely on skills, past experience, and personality. Statistically, there will usually be more men competing for a job than there are women. This means that for every job, it’s more likely a man will get it. It does NOT mean a woman isn’t getting it because of her gender, it means she had a group of other people to compete with and one of them got the job instead. If you’re going to be using that kind of warped logic, then men are “less likely” to be considered for a position as a nurse.
To the crime/victim stuff again, it’s actually thought that MEN are statistically more likely to be victims of abusive relationships because the majority of those cases go unreported or aren’t taken seriously and even in the few cases where it is properly investigated, the women still get the court biased in their favour and on average will get a lighter sentence than if they were a male in the very same circumstances.
“The ideal build for man/women is” WHATVER PEOPLE SAY IT IS. Ever hear the phrase “different blokes, different strokes.” It basically means everyone likes different things. So by pidgeonholing men and women into these two categories of having to look “muscular” or “thin” makes you the sexist one, if anything.
Looking back, I forgot to talk about point number 2: I look at it like this. In the find-a-mate environment, all the males are competing against each other. They have to make an active effort to find a partner. A women is not expected to do this. Typically, society (and evolution) has dictated men are meant to court, and women have the deciding vote. So, if a woman sleeps with many men, it is worse, generally, because women don’t have to try as hard.
Anyways, my heads killing me, and I’ve got things to be doing. Ta-ta.
so many agrees, and all deserved.
-Starhammer-
I learned in 4th grade that women out populated men by a noticeable margin. I knew it was only a matter of time before they started playing VGs. This was bound to happen, same thing with comedy, politics, music, etc…I just wish feminist groups wouldn’t whine and complain about everything so much, like the whole Tomb Raider rape-fiasco.
Here’s an idea, more women should just get into VG development and make their own games, the way they want them.
As long as I’m alive, that statement can never be true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqAbAjzJ9tI
The threat of rape? Wha…? How is that relevant to this point?
I actually thought that one was the most self explanatory. We live in the era of white knighting where even women in the lower echelon have men jumping through hoops because they have vaginas. That’s what using sex as a weapon/tool is.
Rape is literally using sex as a weapon.
You missed the point I was making then. I was using sex as a weapon as a phrase for getting what you want via sex appeal.
You make it sound like Women are incapable of raping.
No, she IS as stupid as I make her out to be. The fact that there are many people even more fucking retarded than she is doesn’t change this.