im tempted to buy it cos its only 15 here, but I wanna know why and how the sf4 killer commited suicide 
It sucks?
Prolly worth 15, though.
but its king of fighters, i wanna know WHY it sucks, it cant just suck
-online was crap (supposedly about Tekken post-patch qual now)
-no offline playerbase so no offline play
-game played it too safe, which led to a boring game at high-level
-no real organized fanbase that isnāt Smashboards-level
bingo! thanks a lot, ill avoid that then.
oh is it worth getting 98UM or osochi saga?
sorry for asking this here, wont do it again :wgrin:
IIRC, 98UMās netcode isnāt that great.
Just get kof 98um itās a much better game.
And why the hell is this thread here instead of in the King of Fighters section???
Thereās threads for it thereā¦
Where is it 15? Thats the best price Iāve ever seen. I ordered an Asian region free copy for 22 off ebay the other day.
I would also like to know what happened to the game. The actual engine looks pretty solid to me. I know nothing about KOF though and I am mainly buying this because I am a huge fan of sprite work and the graphics in KOF XII are amazing.
I love KoF12. I think its a really solid game. Sure it lacks interesting new subsystem, and a lot of your favorite old characters, but whats there is pretty fun.
98UM is the best KOF (arguably, but no one will call the game shit) in the series.
The problem is finding people to play it- online is unplayable even at 50ms you get about 6-7 frames of input delay on everything if youāre not the host. Worst netcode of any game at any time this gen. Also the game lacks English translations. Youād be better off playing 98 on GGPO, even though arcade 98 is inferior.
XII did have a solid base which can be built on, but I donāt think SNK will. Honestly, their best business strategy right now is pachinko and witch touching games.
Horribly lacking in every department outside of looksā¦which IMHO, I hate the character models. Some of them just look like upscaled CvS versions of themselves(Benimaru), which looked like total doo doo.
It really wasnāt meant for older players of the series anyway since it stripped everything out that made KOF unique so Iām guessing it was made to rake in the SF crowd which also failedā¦Who were they targeting with this tragedy?
In all honesty, If they donāt go bankrupt(Their own fault for sure this time), they should consider actually rebuilding KOF around the principles that are tried and true among the core players and THEN worry about throwing in some easy mode shit to rake in less seasoned players, who will be promptly owned, but will still play nonetheless.
Or just make 2 different games. One that still uses the 2-d sprites with some editing to allow newer/forgotten characters to co-exist with the sprites they have now(Sort of like NGBC but with more emphasis on āNormalā characters that wouldnāt look out of place in a KOF game). Quite a bit more simple than drawing a whole slew of Hi-res sprites every time they want to make a game+they can be creative with them and the system again. This would not be aimed at newer crowds obviously but they are welcome to try it out.
Second one would be the āstripped downā version with good looks to appeal to the masses that slowy but surely(If it makes it this far) makes itās rounds through every old itieration of KOF but in HD and some things are starkley different, I.E. Strikers.
It wouldnāt become the bacon winner for a while because of the backlash from 12 and older players may pass on it if they donāt deem it a worthy sucessorā¦but if does everything the CORRECT way, itāll have everyone playing at the same time which would be good for the FG community as a whole.
KoF XII is KoF for retards. Barely anything from high level KoF remains in KoF XII.
100% true. Fuckinā sad what they did.
Pretty much thisā¦
Honestly, I wouldnāt have cared about the goofy-ass new models, the hideous arenas with terrible shading that makes it so YOU CANāT FUCKING SEE THE CHARACTERS WHEN FIGHTING, unremarkable music, the crappy netcode, the crappy roster, stripped down movesets, dumbed down gameplay, the dumb Critical Counter system, the stupid new grappling system, fucking dumb ass parries if the game was simply fun.
But it isnāt fun. At all. Especially not for KOF fans are used to better games.
Also note, that a lot of the people in this very topic who have said XII is āfunā Iām sure have not really played XI, 2002 UM, or MIRA.
I havenāt played XII yet. Do you know why I want to play XII? Robert Garcia.
Itās bad when your entire interest in a game banks on one character right? Like how I feel about Ragna and BB CT.
I was entirely expecting a long rant from you about how itās not XI and how it should have been like XI, and how XI was really good, but maybe Iāve been wrong about you.
All good natured ribbing aside, I agree with you Shiki as all these issues make the game unappetizing to returning fans, which were the only set of fans KoF had.
Also I think this game even stripped down just came out in a year where everyone was all SFIV or bust. I mean has any game garnered any real attention in the shadow of SFIV? I have liked a lot of the new games but even in the new streaming age of tournaments they often will stream a tournament and only show SFIV.
I think this would have got a lot more attention had it been released prior to SFIV. So it was never going to get a great following, but it could have been better.
There is no King of Fighters section for general talk, the only fighting game with such a forum is SFIV.
There is no point asking a general question in a strategy section.
He also forgot to mention that the KOF board is FILLED with bitching. We have two threads about KOF XII that are nothing but bitching. The latest āWho Plays KOF Bestā thread became about actions regarding dicks and bitching.