What's the timing on Sodom's Tengu Walking?

Classic Fighting Games Street Fighter Alpha Anthology
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It’s the recover move where he walks on his weapons (I forget what they’re called). I’ve only been able to pull off the move a few times, even in Training Mode.

I know there are two ways to do it, and the only times I’ve done it is by:

qcf + K

All the FAQS I’ve read say to do it “as you get up”. The other way is:

b,db,d + K when you get knocked down or after an air block

So what exactly is the timing for this move, by either method? Any tips are appreciated.

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Do it in place of a tech or recovery.

3

Thanks for the reply.