What would you do to balance 3rd Strike?

[zeroG]

remove kara-throw

Agreed

[Donkus]

Remove ChunLi and red parries.

Change the name of every super to “Magnetic Storm”.

[LiSyaoran]

Don’t take out Red-Parries

[System_1]

The main EX move Hugo needs is an EX version of his air throw. The reason being is that his air throw is one of the few moves that give him mobility to get near a character; unfortunately, the recovery after it is so long that it is not a practical move to use reliably. (You basically have to flat out guess and time your opponent properly to use that move to control distance.) If he had an EX version of that move with less recovery on landing, he would have a way to get in on characters.

If Capcom just wanted to make a small change to Hugo, all they would need to do is lower the recovery of his air throw so that Hugo would have some mobility and a way of getting in on people.

I’ve been messing with Q recently, and to me, I think he’s a good character (but then again, I like defensive characters such as Q and Hugo), but if I could improve one thing about him, it would be the frames needed to activate “Capture & Deadly Blow”. If that move was 6 or 7 frames long, he would probably be upper-mid tier or at least dang near it.

[System_1]

That’s one of his best moves imo. It forces people to either not get hit or parry. You can tick throw it when they block virtually anything. Then they’re cornered and have some damage dealt.

As another Hugo player, I can certainly agree with you on the usefulness of that move. One of the problems Hugo has is that his moves are kind of slow and thus parry bait. The risk of getting caught with 360+K (which puts the other character in the corner and thus gives Hugo some advantage) is the thing that keeps people from just sitting back and blocking/parrying Hugo.

[Demon_Dash]

The main EX move Hugo needs is an EX version of his air throw. The reason being is that his air throw is one of the few moves that give him mobility to get near a character; unfortunately, the recovery after it is so long that it is not a practical move to use reliably. (You basically have to flat out guess and time your opponent properly to use that move to control distance.) If he had an EX version of that move with less recovery on landing, he would have a way to get in on characters.

If Capcom just wanted to make a small change to Hugo, all they would need to do is lower the recovery of his air throw so that Hugo would have some mobility and a way of getting in on people.

I’ve been messing with Q recently, and to me, I think he’s a good character (but then again, I like defensive characters such as Q and Hugo), but if I could improve one thing about him, it would be the frames needed to activate “Capture & Deadly Blow”. If that move was 6 or 7 frames long, he would probably be upper-mid tier or at least dang near it.

I can understand where you’re coming from, but it does has it’s other perposes. It’s good for playing mind games with 360/AA mixups. While still not the best of moves, it’s still a usable move.

[UltraDavid]

I’ve been messing with Q recently, and to me, I think he’s a good character (but then again, I like defensive characters such as Q and Hugo), but if I could improve one thing about him, it would be the frames needed to activate “Capture & Deadly Blow”. If that move was 6 or 7 frames long, he would probably be upper-mid tier or at least dang near it.

That would be pretty cool, but 6-7 frames is too fast for the amount of damage you can do after the grab. All Q really needs is hit stun on far and close standing forward like Akuma’s close standing forward, less startup and recovery on slaps and overhead/low dash punch, and less recovery on c&db.

[System_1]

“I can understand where you’re coming from, but it does has it’s other perposes. It’s good for playing mind games with 360/AA mixups. While still not the best of moves, it’s still a usable move.”

It’s certainly usable for mobility purposes, but it is not RELIABLE for mobility purposes. It’s not even reliable as an anti-air but if it was a great anti-air move, it may be too good.

[ParryAll]

remove kara-throw

Q and Elena among others would be raped. Not a good idea.

Remove -Chun Li- Kara throw.

[LiSyaoran]

Theres not a damn thing wrong with kara-throw. I swear, if you took out kara-throw, most of you losers would be accidentially throwing out jabs and shorts instead of throws.

[scum_gale_88]

kara throws are kind of meh for me. I could go either way with them. knock yun out of genei jin and make the meter as long as ryus SA2 (full length meter). make chuns pokes weaker and make her SA2 weaker. lower the priority of kens shippu.
well…just make hugo better. and give sean a super taunt!

[DA_GAME]

For the most part I’d make only minor changes.

Yun: pick two changes for Genei Jin among having higher damage scaling, having the active time period shortened, not being able to combo into it, not being able to combo out of it, and giving the opponent extra meter at every individual attack
Chun: doesn’t recover as quickly after jumping down + forward and walljump, airthrow starts up with same number of frames as Oro’s, SAII does not allow a superjump attack at the end and starts up 1 frame slower
Ken: minor minor damage reduction, SAIII starts up 1 frame slower
Makoto: moves do a little less stun
Oro: close standing strong and close standing forward are command moves (ie back + strong)
Ibuki: minor minor damage increase
Remy: gains meter for throwing discs
Alex: all throws do a little more damage, walk speed increases, SAII throws the opponent behind you if you hold back and in front of you if you hold toward, SAII throw part never whiffs after first hits connect
Hugo: all attacks/throws do a little more damage, moves do a little more stun
Q: close standing forward does more hitstun, less recovery on slaps, overhead/low dash punches start up and recover faster
Twelve: takes damage like Alex/Urien, SAI starts up one frame faster and damage doesn’t diminish with distance, SAII does same damage air to air as air to ground, normal throws have third largest range and do as much damage as Hugo’s, whippy hands starts up and recovers a little faster
Sean: decrease recovery on every special move, make dragon punch unthrowable, roll and tackle have faster startups and move faster

DA GAME agrees with UltraDavid on this.Sean & Ibuki should be back to their 2nd Impact glory days.One main thing DA GAME would balance is the flaky AI.At times when DG goes up against weaker characters,their ability to dish out damage is increased,while the ability to take damage when their life is @ 1/3 is increased.Example:fighting Remy using Alex,Remy’s health is @ 1/3 while Alex’s health is @ 85% is perfoming his Personal Action taunt while Remy is down.All of sudden Remy receives a huge power boost & performs a low Strong XX Rising Rage Flash that knock’s Alex’s life bar down to almost 50%.Plus the AI will make you overtime to beat when they have a 1/3 or no health at all to beat them.

[Dander]

I would place a second xbox case or similarly shaped cd carrying object, put a cd in it and set it on the other side of the scale.

[FACENC]

I would place a second xbox case or similarly shaped cd carrying object, put a cd in it and set it on the other side of the scale.

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[Ryu24]

completely get rid of makotos guessing game. i dont like playing guess strike 99% of the time against her.

[Dander]

completely get rid of makotos guessing game. i dont like playing guess strike 99% of the time against her.

Start anticipating and reacting accordingly, then.

[Ryu24]

you cant react to it. its all guessing.

[Louiscipher]

^^ Someone’s been playing on GGPO…

[jblair]

Sounds like everyone here’s been playing on ggpo…

[Dander]

you cant react to it. its all guessing.

“RYOU24 can’t react to it. He always guessing.” is a better way to word that sentence. Try out some twitch tactics. I don’t think that topic’s been covered too extensively, though. Make a new thread if you’re so interested, but I warn you, this is where much 3s’ depth comes from. GGPO might get migraines. No offense.