Is it possible to use sega Saturn pads on a 360?
With an adapter …
I’m looking at putting my TE-S that I’ve had forever up on the shelf in favor of some new hotness. I’m currently looking at a $200 hard budget outside of having a stick dual-modded (because this will be part of my income tax refund) and have narrowed my selections down to three sticks (Hori Fighting Edge, VS Pro from Madcatz, Eightarc Synthesis). I’m half-tempted to go with the VS Pro because of what I have already, but I’d like some input from owners of the Fighting Edge and any Qanba/Eightarc as far as possible drawbacks may be before I commit.
Thanks!
I’m going to answer this without TT in mind: Why buy another current gen stick?
Why not just use your TE-S and eventually get a PS4/Xbone stick?
or just get a plexi with some new art, maybe switch buttons to seimitsu and JLF to a LS-32
completeny new feel, looks different, and you’ll save like 140 that you can buy hookers for
The reason I was looking at selling my stick was to help benefit a guy in my scene here who doesn’t have one. That was the only reason (well, that and maybe starting a stick collection in the likely event he buys a stick from somewhere else).
I don’t care how many people worship Sanwas and have them over an altar with a gold pig at their side and fap to them at night. Sanwas being the top of the cake is a damn myth by japanese world lovers. I’d say the Sanwas are not suitable for fighting games, why? because they are not sensitive and they do not allow fast movements and thus, go against the fastest possible reaction you can have because of their large throwzone. I’m tired of people going elitist by saying Sanwas this, Sanwas that and trying to force the internet to believe they are godly.
What sticks should you get? Make one for yourself. Just get the Sanwa shaft, the plate, the dust washer, the octogonal restrictor, the Spark CEs from Toodles, screws, the 5 cables bus for it and a McCthulhu, plus Sanwa buttons which are the most sensitive ones and allow for lightning fast reactions (although many times they actually fail to activate somehow… people never mention this. I hope this gets solved eventually), a JLF spring which you will extend to make a little bit stiffer for more tension, the Sanwa actuator, cables to solder and you will have what you want: precision, sensitivity, softness and reliability.
If you want to, just get a full Sanwa stick to reduce the list.
Default Sanwas = bad
Sanwa + SparkCE = godlike.
Chilling tale, sibling!
Enchanting Tale, Kinsmen.
Now let me tell you a story. I going to tell you with all personal opinions and biases aside and focusing just on the facts here.
Sanwa is the industry standard for Arcade parts now. Sanwa was smart with there marketing and made some deals to make sure there parts are in premium Hori and Mad Catz sticks.
Those 2 brands are the strongest brand names in “Arcade Fight Sticks”, and this is long before the fan boy banter. And every TE and (almost every) Hrap now comes in Full Sanwa.
While I don’t have the article to quote from (someone took it down on Geek Hack) Sanwa’s are the most sensitive Push button (in production) in the whole industry.
Keep in mind INDUSTRY STANDARD ≠ BEST. The word Best is highly opinionated.
I myself is a fan of Seimitsu parts, the JLF is a little too loose for me deadzone wise and Sanwa buttons are a little too soft for my taste.
Out of the 5 sticks I own only one is full sanwa. Only one of my sticks have Sanwa buttons and only 2 have JLFs.
You mean the joystick wire harness of 5 wires designed to make the job of wiring a joystick far much easier than individual tabbed microswitches?
because Seimitsu joysticks ending in a -01 for the part number uses the same harness. The job became so much easier that there adapter harnesses now for individually tabbed joysticks.
No one making you use Sanwas, no one in the FGC is holding a gun telling you that you must use Sanwa parts.
Any ways this is Tech Talk, having a stick come with brand parts we don’t want had never stopped us before.
Also your Post has no value in a thread where 95% of the produced reviewed uses Sanwa parts.
I’ve been on the hunt for a while to get my first fightstick. I think I’ve narrowed it down to 3 sticks and would like some final clarity. Shipping included:
1- $180 MLG TE from Microsoft Canada Website *edited(theres tax)
2- $172 MC Arcade Fightstick Pro from Mad Catz
3- $210 QanbaQ4 from Canadian Joysticks
I haven’t heard any negatives yet for the MLG TE, though I haven’t heard much. Pretty sure I’ve heard negatives about the MC fightstick pro box being flimsy. Qanba Q4 has been recommended a lot but I’ve also been told, even by a writer from here, that their PCBs tend to give out. I ruled out a stick that would’ve been on the list, Killer Instinct TE 2, just from a review where the buttons felt just a little off due to a bit weaker of a metal panel.
I know I should be content with pretty much any stick for a first , but I like getting good stuff with no regrets. I’m not sure now which stick is better quality between the mlg and fightstick pro. Any thoughts on their quality since the price total is about the same?
I will only be playing on PC and do not own consoles.
Thank you all.
Killer Instinct TE 2 only works on Xbox One.
The other 3 sticks, the TE, Pro and Qanba Q4 all uses Sanwa parts.
The TE and Pro uses the exact same PCBs, only difference is the shell.
What system you are buying a stick for?
Only PC. I do not own any consoles.
Your evaluation of what has value or less value means nothing.
I speak about Sanwa sticks’ deadzone or throwzone being an absolutely awful design decision. In fact it is so bad it makes it undesirable to use. You can’t dash reliably, simply and when something fails on a stick I stop having confidence in my metagame. I cannot believe how people have grown to be so fond about the brand when they talk about their sticks. The buttons are the best there are (quickest activation time, allow faster reaction and are the softest ones).
Also the fact that no one has manufactured some kind of solution to optimize the deadzone (which would make Sanwas actually really good… except for the clicking sound) (yes I know you can use tape on the actuator) astonishes me. It would be on high demand.
@PhoenixHope
If you want something easy to mod go for the TE, its also cheaper than the Pro
You don’t need the Qanba Q4 dual-mode as you have nether console
@pablofsi
Something tells me you didn’t read my previous post at all.
Your bring up a debate that was beaten down older than both of our time on SRK put together. This is the stuff mods will infarct over.
I saw how in the other thread your friend prefers IL, some people like Sanwa, I like Seimitsu, other people like korean parts.
So why even care of other people favor? No one forcing you to use Sanwa or even use a stick or play fighting games.
Every joystick ever has a dead zone, some are larger than others. The thing with the JLF yes it has a dead zone a huge one compared to other joysticks, but that deadzone makes the joystick very forgiving with execution. The Tighter your deadzone is the more precise your inputs become but its a 2 way sword, your inputs must be just as precise.
Funny, I actually prefer the clicking of the microswitches. I bought a Spark CE, and while it felt buttery-smooth to use, I couldn’t get used to NOT feeling the clicking of the microswitches; it’s become an additional level of haptic feedback for me to confirm what’s happening is indeed what I actually want to do. I ended up taking out the Spark CE and putting back the stock microswitched PCB.
I think it’s less of the fact that people “love” Sanwas, it’s more the fact that it’s become industry standard that they “like” them. That is to say, if in a parallel universe, Seimitsu LS-32s and PS-14s were the industry standard, people would “love” them instead of Sanwas. Plus, because they are the industry standard, all the professional players use them (especially when they’re sponsored), so there’s the extra “glamor” in using what the pros use. It becomes the “OMG, I use the same tennis racket as Roger Federer, so it MUST be an AMAZING racket!” factor.
Which, I suppose, is all moot from my perspective; I’ve always preferred Seimitsu buttons due to the the extra-tactile “click” over the light Sanwas (which I find too light), and I switched to using a Seimitsu LS-32-01 over the JLF (shorter throw).
No, it simply means that YOU cannot dash reliably. I don’t see Daigo, Wong, Infiltration and the majority of tournament winners having any trouble using a Sanwa JLF-TP-8YT with a square gate.
You can also see gamepad users in tournaments “not having a problem with the DS3” yet it sucks for fighting games.
Darksakul: there is a point of sensitivity that is “close to very very sensitive” but enough for inputs to not be marked easily enough to see random stuff come out. Stock Sanwas bring an unoptimized and almost unusable measure in that “gauge” of sensitivity. I love my SparkCE due to that, maximum sensitivity, reaction times and reliable, precise motion marking.
@Darksakul Thank you for the help. I did make a price mistake. There is tax on the MLG and its $20 more now, but the sticks are still very close in price enough that it doesn’t matter.
Telling people to build their own thread, in the thread that is targeted at first-time-buyers, is retarded.
Go start another thread talking about how the sparkce shits on everything.
Everyone else, ignore the crazy drooling man and move on with your life.
Hello all new user here! it’s my 20th birthday coming up this February 8th. I been looking at hori sticks one specifically called the kai pro for 140 on amazon. how easy will it be to mod it with a new octagonal gate? I just really need a stick for the release of ultra :3