Ok. Someone please help me out here. I have a few friends that I play games with. Majority fighting. Usually when something crazy happens or when a combo is launched and there seemingly no way out of it, I keep hearing the phrase “Thats so Cheap.” I need clarity. What do u guys out there consider ‘Cheap’? Cause in my opinion, if i do a move over and over and you fall for it every time, then to me that means you need to bring up your game… but i digress. what do you guys think?
Most people here would agree with what you said. If it’s in the game, it’s fair, and nothing is “cheap.” People who complain about certain tactics being cheap = scrubs.
not sure if this is flamebait or what but since i like to talk here we go
cheapness doesnt really exist apart from like having sex with your opponent to distract them while playing
if you cannot adapt you will just keep being owned by the same tactics ad infinitum and such (i should know eating way too many anti airs not that that stops me from jumping in)
friends can kind of suck in this respect, i recommend that you find some real comp that doesnt complain as much 
well way back when we were playing old games like Super Smash Bros for N64 I had a nasty habit of juggling my opponentswith Fox. they said that it was cheap cause there wasnt a way to get away from it once it was started. I just said if you were smrt you’d not get caught in it in trhe 1st place lol we stopped playing that gme after that but when Soul Calibur 2 came around I mastered Maxi and it all sarted again lol I dont get the big deal
I don’t think that is cheap annoying yes but oh well what can u do about it they must learn the hard way.
The real term for cheap is when you win the round of block damage. Apart from that…like someone said before.
In my defense, I just want to say that It was f*ckin hard to master maxi and it took quite a few hours in practice mode before I could link all of his good moves together. Now when I play him itslike 1 long combo. Its no unbeatable but its not a push over either. anywho Im done ranting lol I’m gonna do what Bole said and try nd find some real comp.
Actually, cheap is just an oldschool term for something that a counter isn’t obvious for. Lots of shit gets called cheap until a way around it is discovered.
Excuse me there’s already a thread on this. Just look here please:
http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34747
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Meh…the term gets thrown around and misused about 90% of the time. Usually when someone whines that something is cheap its because they suck and are just sore losers.
When you actually know a game and realize certain tactics are overpowered and the counter is much harder than the actual tactic is to abuse, thats usually considered broken. I usually use cheap and scrubby fairly interchangably, usually to refer to something that is pretty broken. Actually, I rarely mention it if I lose, but when I win I’ll frequently be an immense dick about fighting against ‘scrubby’ tactics. If a game has too many ‘cheap’ tactics, its usually retarded to play and it just makes you angry instead of enjoying the game. Thats when you know a game isn’t worth playing.
This is the game’s fault for having such overpowered tactics, though, not the player’s fault for using them. (I know you know this, just stating it for the OP).
It means you’re willing to do what it takes to win.
“That’s cheap” is code for “I suck”.
Spoken like a true SRKer.
Oh god I have to use that sometime. :tup:
[lame story up ahead]
when i was a kid and played HF against my older bro, i would always pick ryu and he would always pick gief.
my strategy: hadouken/DP all day
his strategy: j. d+HP splash into either C.HK or throw (we were kids. 360 = impossible).
anyway, he would call me cheap because i ran the hadouken/DP well against him and won all the time. i told myself “fine, i won’t do it.” i’d throw hadoukens and he would do the splash, but i held back on the shoryukens, so i would block and get thrown. then i thought he was cheap, because if there was no way to anti-air the splash, then he would get free throws, and he won all the time after that.
sf became boring after that.
so if you just sat around and called everything cheap, no one would get better and the game wouldn’t be fun anymore.
I agree that saying something is “cheap” is just like saying “I suck because I can’t counter that…”. I have a lot of friends where if I’m Ken in SF3s, all I’ll do is hadukens(like the guy above) and DPs. So I’ll stay far away and throw hadukes and when they jump in, I’d DP his ass and he’d get mad, calliong me cheap. Well buddy, if you can’t escape this simple tactic, then you suck, get better. Of course, I would never try such a stunt with a better player, or else I’d get punished all day long. So no, there is no such thing as cheap. There is such a thing as a unbalanced games and charecters, but I can safely say nothing is cheap.
Ok. now I totally agree with that but when I’m owning like every challenger with Maxi, the people I’m playing with have a tendency to bitch… alot! I keep saying that you wouldnt get owned so badly if you put som time into learninbg how to counter. Its not Mission: Impossible. I remeber a time when Nightmare/Seigfried was damn near unbeatable but then all it took was for someone to use him and practice with him for a little and then you could easily block and parry and whatnot cause you know where each swing is going. same stands for just about all characters. if you put some effort into learning what they canb do it makes it that much easier to not get owned to the point where the words “Thats Cheap” come up. meh, i just wish it were easier to convince my friends
So Duo Lon is counterable if you just practice? So is Zero and Geese?
If a tactic is too easy and too effective, yet extremely difficult or impossible to counter, that is cheap/broken. Thats why SvC and 2k3 suck and aren’t played. Thats why ST Akuma is banned.
and thats why mvc2 is hated alot more now.