if i remember correctly blair is Irish daughter of a billionaire who has travelled around europe. also travelled the world with pullum. c.jack quoute from booklet ‘‘mad gear members surrounded c.jack and hassled him next thing they were all on the floor after one punch from cracker jack’’.
one punch! huh?
sharon is blair dames cousin.
What about Ace’s (EX3) profile ?
(PS.: I think C. Jack is Wolverine!! haha)
Ace’sF EX Storyline is that he’s some sort of Cyborg, that’s why he can learn everyone’s moves - you can buy them and customize Ace to have whatever moves you want.
My personal/unofficial/can’t back it up/just ignore it/theory is that he may be the… final prdouct of the ‘Cycloid Project,’ but the Cycloids don’t have any story at all that I’m aware of other than allowing the players to fool around with SF EX’s ingame skeleton used for everybody, but seeing as they have a bunch of the character’s moves, and hella creepy SF EX endings, that’s just my guestimate.
Well I’ve had a couple friends translate the Japanese EX3 endings. Most of it is pretty much what the Capcom of USA translated there. While others were reworded and a little bit different.
A couple things in there are verified and others are disproven. So take a look, perhaps it’ll help this thread.
Maybe within a month will I have translations ready for one of the previous EX games.
Thanx for the endings ShinjiGohan. They’re pretty damn funny, are those swear words actually in it, or did the translator add them?
Urgh. Can someone post the text instead?
Thanks. As I thought, the Kair/Hokuto fight seemed to take place in SF EX 2 and their appearance here seems very Easter Eggy lacking an explanation of what happened after their fight in SF EX 2. But I question that translation. In some endings it seems that Kairi is Hokuto’s father, in others it seems like all three including Nanase are brothers and sisters. Um… what?
For the rest of the characters their SF EX3 US endings are more or less the same thing.
From what I know, Kairi and Hokuto are siblings as established by the US SF EX Plus Alpha Strategy Guide which states -
“Hokuto left home at 17 to look for her brother, who is dissapeared and is now feared to be lost in a state of dark confusion. She grew up learning traditional martial arts from her father, and she developed these teachings into her own distinct style. She is forced to fight an unknown enemy to find the true location of her brother.”
So the only things I can figure out from those translations of the endings is that Kairi reminded Hokuto of her father, and the newborn that Kairi was remembering was either young Hokuto or Nanase. And that’s the best I can get from that…
Those are better than the translations we normally get. Rosso’s ending on the CD makes it sound like he is about to commit suicide.
Yea, that was the only ending that we had trouble with. According to WinterEX3 (Joe), most of that particular ending emphasised how big/broad her fathers back was. Not to mention, she was losing consciousness (sort of like the state before you goto sleep… we couldn’t really find a term to describe it).
To your following post, I agree with it.
But as I said, hopefully within a month I’ll be able to have uploaded the translated endings for one of the previous EX games so we oculd figure out the storyline a bit further.
I’ve been having an AOL Instant Message conversation with Jed-Chrizt, the person who translated the Japanese endings and he told me a lot of things I didn’t know about SFEX3’s story. Anyway, according to him, Kairi and Hokuto are alive and well. Here’s the conversation, I’ll be ‘S’ and he’ll be ‘J’.
J: Hey. You don’t know me yet, I’m jed
J: Hello?
S: Hello? Who this be?
J: I’ve been reading your posts.
S: Where do you post?
J: Snk-Capcom but I’ve been reading your posts on shoryuken
J: The Kairi discussions. Some of it is kinda false.
S: Like?
J: Hokuto/Kairi death
S: Hmm. Inform?
J: I thought so to. But honestly Kairi defeated Hokuto very easily.
S: Do you happen to have All About SF EX and can you read Japanese?
J: Yeah, I’ve been researching about Kairi and his clan matters for 4 years.
S: The source of SF EX’s Kairi vs. Hokuto is Saiki, as you know he is the main source of information for the SF Plot Guide.
J: Concerning the Kairi vs. Hokuto case, I believed that for a long time now. But it’s really not true.
S: What are your sources of information may I ask?
J: The SFEX Manga comic, the translations, JP version EX3, Internet Shingoten, Calling, Writing comments to Capcom, Internet Research, the SF Info Guide by slate, the SF EX series, a whole lot more but some are from the net and of course, some are false.
S: Mangas are not official and SF EX3 had it’s share of ‘Easter Eggyness’ in that it’s a game where nothing important happens. Alls I can do is inquire what it says in the All About Books and that’s pretty much it; we sort of take it over Capcom’s word, they sort of don’t care about the storyline anymore.
J: Well you have a point there.
S: But if you really want the info -
admin@capcom-central.com
http://www.capcom-central.com/index.php?page=contact
J: Also another thing. Do you know what happened to Kairi? Hokuto is one of Gouki’s minions.
S: What? I never heard of that!!!
J: …are you serious…
S: Nah, just that Hokuto, Nanase and Kairi are of the Mizukami Clan, and Kairi killed Gouki. Why would Hokuto be a Gouki minion? Strange.
J: She did not purposely become one no! You do know that the spirit of Akuma(Gouki) possessed Kairi? When Hokuto fought him she was beaten down and taken over just like Kairi, Nanase was the only one left to save them. Kairi and Hokuto didn’t double death.
(From sano: At this point he began showing me the endings that were posted here until I put 2 and 2 together and figured out they were the same endings posted here and that he was the translator).
S: Okay. Here’s my question though. Where SF EX2 left off, did it leave it as Saiki explained as the the two were about to off each other and then SF EX3 settled it as they didn’t off each other? that would in fact go along with what Saiki said.
J: In SFEX2 they did fight each other.
S: There is also no All About SF EX3 nor is SF EX3 covered in All About Capcom, so that would actually make sense. Also I believe when Saiki was talking about SF EX2 SF EX 3 wasn’t out yet.
J: Oh and did you know that Nanase is the leader of the Miz clan now?
S: Nah, but I didn’t really think about it.
(Jed Refers to his translations of Nanase’s endings).
J: Nanase saved him from the entire thing.
S: Some of those endings I dismissed because some of it makes no sense, like Hokuto looking at Kairi’s back and remembering… her father, what?
J: Yeah!
S: That’s what I’m saying, they are confusing. One talked about their dad, another about a newborn baby, what??? It’s just that I really couldn’t make sense of those endings to tell you the truth.
J: Yeah they basically are a bit… yeah…
S: Nothing against your translations though.
J: If you think about it, how could Hokuto kill a raging demon like Kairi?
S: As what Saiki said, in SF EX2 Kairi powered down a bit before the last punch and then that was the 'cliffhanger.'
J: Ahh! The so-called Kairi sparring his sister, I couldn’t take hearing this.
S: See as I said, our books referenced take place before SF EX3 came out.
J: Well yeah. But these things are for sure.
S: So each game tends to change what happened before or explain what happened, sometimes they alter things too or claim this happened or that ending didn’t happen. It happens with every fighting game.
J: Long story short.
Kairi got his ass whooped by Gouki
Kairi lost his memory and memorized Gouki’s moves and killed him
Kairi dissapeared from the clan
Hokuto went out in search of her brother, eventually finding him and challenging him to a duel. Lost miserably.
Hokuto became one of Kairi’s minions
Nanase is the savior of this whole situation. Her kind heart, her sweet words, hugs Nanase lol
S: I thought Hokuto was Gouki’s minion? Or do you just mean she was under Satsui No Hadou?
J: No Kairi was possessed by Gouki. It was Gouki’s only hope of another body.
S: Hold on, Kairi killed Gouki and Gouki possessed him?
J: That’s right, that’s how he became way too powerful. Nanase talks Kairi back into memory.
S: So after Kairi defeated Hokuto, Hokuto became Kairi’s ‘minion,’ then Nanase talked Kairi out of it?
J: Yes. Nanase wasn’t a match for either. Her only hope was to just…talk.
S: So first Kairi kicked Nanase’s Ass? How did Hokuto snap back?
J: If the main power source is broken (Kairi) the minion will be broken down.
S: But didn’t Hokuto become “Evil” while she was fighting Kairi or after?
J: While fighting Kairi. End of the fight anyways.
S: Okay I think I get it. Let me recap. Kairi fought Gouki, Gouki jacked up Kairi and Kairi lost his memory. Later Kairi killed Gouki and Gouki possessed him. Hokuto fought Kairi and became evil during. When Hokuto lost she became Kairi’s minion. Nanase fought Kairi and Kairi won, but in the end Nanase was able to remind him of his past.
J: That’s it. A long story made short.
S: What happened afterwards? Nanase became the leader of the Mitzukami clan and what became of Hokuto and Kairi?
J: OK Hokuto I am not 100% sure of, like maybe 90% sure of.
S: Kairi ran away agian it looks like?
J: How did you know?
S: That’s what SF EX3 endings made it look like.
J: But this time it wasnn’t a evil-ish thingy, he just went on with life, Kairi decided to go a seperate path. Due to all of this, Hokuto and Nanase’s bond strengthened. Hokuto and Nanase stayed back with clan matters. Kairi went on a seperate non-evil path.
S: So why did Hokuto let Nanase lead the clan?
J: Hokuto lead it when she returned, she was older, more experienced. When Kairi and Hokuto were away Nanase took lead of it.
S: Oh so Nanase only ruled the clan when Hokuto wasn’t there. I see.
J: The puppet master behind this is Garuda.
S: I was just about to ask you how Garuda fit into all of this.
J: Garuda is fueled by Shin Souls. Thus when Gouki died Garuda came into physical form hoping for Kairi to eventually die so he’ll get more power.
S: That part I knew, that Garuda was born when Gouki was killed. So is he fueled by victims of the Shun Goku Satsu?
J: And the Snin Jackal souls. Infact, he’s the main reason for Evil Ryu.
S: What are the Shin Jackal souls, and Evil Ryu, ???
J: Shin Jackal is the Animal God Techs which Kairi tried to control. They died. That’s his main source of power.
S: ??? Start at the beginning. I’m getting confused. As far back as you can go.
J: Gouki had the spirits ot the Jackal Animal God Techs, thus making him stronger. Kairi wanted this power (EX start of Kairi). He was in search of power and Gouki had taken what he had been looking for. When Kairi fought Gouki, he got his ass whooped. And at that time was Gouki’s minion who convinced Gouki to throw him off a cliff. Down Kairi goes to the bottom, losing his memory. All he could have remembered was Gouki’s moves (EX into EX2. But there was a problem, one of the Tech Gods entitled Shouki. Shouki was probably the most powerful, and this is how he killed Gouki. When Gouki died, Gouki the spirit, possessed Kairi WITH ALL OF THE TECH GODS. All this is how Kairi is soooo powerfual and always screams (too much power for him to control). (EX2) Kairi can control his powers, but they are starting to take him over completly. In EX2 he has some sort of control in EX2+ He can barely control it. And in EX3 he’s totally unded it, he can only gain self contol after Hatsudo.
S: Who was Gouki’s minion?
J: Adon.
S: Adon from SF Zero?
J: Yep.
S: HOLY S**!!!
J: I have no idea why he was not included in the EX series. It was said that he was a victim to Kairi’s massacre.
S: Ah, just like Rolento should of been in the EX games. Kairi killed Adon too?
J: I’m not 100% sure. But one thing I know is that when Gouki died, Adon dissapeared.
S: Ah, just like we are not 100% sure if Gouki killed Adon in the games (SFZ3). What’s Hatsudo?
J: A Tech God
S: Hatsudo helped Kairi gain control?
J: The one that stuck with Kairi and manifested when Kairi killed Gouki.
S: Okay. I’m going to type all of this stuff at SRK. Thanks a lot.
J: Lol, well Kairi is my favorite character.
Wow, that’s some really interesting insights O.O
I loved the EX characters and stories (what could be gathered from them anyway) DAMN I wish they could become canon characters.
From what I remember, Darun is Pullums bodyguard (You can kinda see from his EX1 ending). Pullum and Blair are meant to be friends. I always throught Sharon was Blair’s sister but spose cousin works just as well lol.
Wasn’t Allen supposed to have been beaten in the opening rounds of the US tournament though? Don’t remember seeing anything about him winning it.
Btw, I’m suprised I’ve never seen anyone else mention this before, but C.Jack’s EX2 look seems to be heavily influenced by Michael Jackson’s Moonwalker look. In some of the official artworks he even has a kinda MJesque pose.
Kairi needs to make a cameo shot in one of the pages udoneko, =P. I mean, just for me. :tup:
Have Lee draw him in a panel, looking on, or something.
I love Akuma being put in the role of somesort of Sith lord with Adon as his apprentice. This is all so interesting. EX produced IMO some of the best characters and stories in the SF universe. KAIRI FOREVER!
Soubnds good to me. Now to find someone to translate the EX-EX2+ endings lol
Totally agree! EX had some great characters, some of the best in a SF game for a long time.
word, homie. co-sign
Me and Jed-Chrizt had a quicky conversation about Hayate. Not much new but I share anyway -
S: Hayate, can you tell me anything about him like what he has to do with Kairi and Hokuto if anything?
J: Hayate.
J: Ah yes, the dragon sword failed character
J: Hayate actually has no relation to any of them.
J: What was his purpose dealt with the legendary Dragon Sword
J: He “intertwined” with Nanase’s search for Kairi
J: Crossed paths
J: They didn’t get to finish it: He’d keep an eye out on Nanase from there on.
J: Know why he was dropped?
S: Okay. I thought there was no blood connection. People always say there is but I haven’t found any proof of that.
J: He was dropped when they realized that a character with a dragon blade was already taken.
S: I always thought he was dropped because of the Orochi deal. KOF already had the Orochi Legend locked down.
J: AHH That too. And besides he wasn’t properly licensed.
J: I think he was a great character
J: *sniff
J: Don’t you agree?
S: Yeah.
Next time I’ll ask more about Nanase and Hayate’s meeting.
Quick question…
Street Fighter EX4, ever possible?
Also, I heard that SFEX4 was denied by Arika from Capcom’s asking to bring back the SFEX series back to life or something…x_x? Sano? lol…
Here’s my idea of what it would be like. Nasane, Hokuto, Hayate, and Kairi are fighters working in service to the Bushinryu Clan. However, Akuma wants to see who will be his apprentice- Ryu or Kairi, seeing how Kairi knows Ansatsuken and he is more likely to become evil. Doctrine Dark would also be working for Bison and Garuda would be one of Bison’s minions. Chun Li, Guile, and Cammy would all be fighting the evil of Shadowlaw, while Hayate, Hokuto, and Nasane are looking for Kairi.
Sagat would work for Bison at this time, and Sakura would be learning fighting from Ryu. The whole game takes place during the Alpha storyline.