What games would you like to see considered for Evo2k6?

If T5DR isnt out by evo time, dont bother doing a 5.0 tourney.

as for TTT; how about doing a Pair play only tournament?

DOA4 doesnt need to be at evo, its going to have enough action on XBL, and online conditions will be the norm for most of its competetive players… though we’ll just have to wait and see how the scene will develop.

SC3 is garbage, and even the dedicated players know it. if its going to be at evo there should be no bans on character creation. that way it will aat least be interesting.

SF2CE? how about just doing an AE tourney -WW characters, sure the game is stupid but why would it be any different from a CE tourney? its not like its serious.

How about SF3:2I? anyone? no? alright then.

I suggest Anniversary Edition and Street Fighter Alpha 3.

SC3,
MVC2,
CVS2,
KOF2002/2003,
Tekken 5,
SF3: Third Strike,
DOA4,
GGXX#R

Maybe
STAlpha:3

3S
CvS2
MvC2
GGXX Slash (if not available, GGXX#R)
KOK XI (if not available, KOF Neowave)
SF2ST
SFA3

The obvious:
MvC2
CvS2
3S
GGXX (newest version)
T5 (newest version)
All these games have good turnout, good histories, and are widely accepted as legitimate. Any benefits from hosting an #R or T5.0 tourny are overshadowed by the importance of staying current, plus the fun factor of playing newer games.

The less obvious:

SF2 AE: The only feasible version of SF2, a game that needs to be represented because it’s simultaneously the most accessible, the most respected, and the most widely known of any game on the list. I think a full-fledged AE tourny is preferable to a “mock ST” tourny (SF1 version or ST-only AE), because AE is cheaper, easier to find, and offers more variety, without compromising the essential quality of SF2. Yes, CE Guile and Bison are good, but so are ST Vega and O.Sagat, and we’ve never had problems with them before.

DOA4: Popularity and newness are the two big factors here. Evo desperately needs new games, and since Capcom isn’t offering any, we have to look to the 3D world. DOA4 is more respectable than previous DOA games, and the online play will attract new people who might otherwise not be going to Evo, which is always good.

SC3: Again, it’s a new game, it’s popular, and it runs on PS2. Although I don’t see it having a competitive future, we need a real, high-profile tourny to see just how broken it is, much like SBO was for CFE. Plus, rounds are short, so it won’t be a huge administrative burden.

SSBM: If MLG isn’t hosting SSBM tournies, Evo should pick this game up. Immensely popular, it’ll attract more high-caliber people to fighting games. However, if the hardware differences become an issue, it’s not a must-have.

That makes 9 games. Some notable things I don’t think should be on the list:

VF4: Evo is a console tourny, and VF4FT is arcade-only. Japanese players aren’t exactly chomping at the bit to come play the equivalent of an SSF2 tourny to their ST, and Evo isn’t that popular in the US either. I would, however, advise putting VF5 in for Evo2k7 - VF is just that good.

SFA3: Version differences, small turnout, etc. plague this game. You’re not likely to get anybody coming for A3 who wouldn’t be happy playing an A3 side tourny on CigarBob’s super-cabinets anyway, so let him handle it just like he’s handling the need for an ST arcade side tourny.

SNK games: There are too many games to choose from and not enough players for any of them. If KOF XI becomes popular in the States, go for it, but not now when it’s an unknown quantity.

SF2 CE or HF: These fall under the category of ST alternatives that are overshadowed by AE.

In other news:

Would anybody be interested in playing in an OMF 2097 side tourny? :stuck_out_tongue: Any laptop will run the thing, and I can upload recordings afterwards in lieu of DVD coverage.

1: If you don’t mind, I would like to input that as of right now, SSBM is a party game with fighting elements in it. While I would still play it at EVO2K6, IT IS A FIGHTING GAME TOURNAMENT!

2: There need to be a KOF tourney (cough 2003 cough), or it wouldn’t be a real fighting game tournament. That, and since it’s only KOF, there need to be no restrictions should this happen.

3: BRING BACK THE FIRST CROSSOVER! XVSF ROCKS!

Mr. Wizard would you consider doing Non-big 4 MvC2 for Evo on the side? If you haven’t seen this before check thread below. I will also talk to shinblanka about it for Final Round 9. Thanks!

http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93454

i still say SNK needs to get some spotlight at Evo. If not Neogeo Battle Coliseum, then atleast KOF98, KOF02, KOF03 or KOFXI. Whichever one people wanna play the most. Though I just listed the most popular ones in the series (to a majority, that is).

I find it kinda sad, seeing as how SNK has been around for just as long as Capcom has in the fighting game scene. It should only be fair. If you can get a garbage ass game like SC3 or DoA in there you should consider KOFXI or NGBC at the least.

I might suggest none of the pre-paid “MAYBE we’ll throw them, MAYBE not” crap from last year, whatever games you decide to have. Throw tournaments, have side tournaments, don’t do them at all, do a freaking LOTTERY, whatever you want…but that was really rather weak.

VF4:FT
SFA3
SSF2T
GGX Slash
MvC2
CvS2
(random new game…Melty Blood, RoD, Hokuto no Ken, etc)
3S
(random popular 3D game…Tekken 5:DR, I guess)
(random SNK game…probably Garou)

Not really a likely list. HSF is an OK substitute for ST…you’ll have more entrants, but the overall quality will be lower.

The console-only approach may be great…in a year or two. As it is, there are plenty of games that would be good for Evo and especially attract Japanese players, which are either best or exclusively on arcade machines (see: almost my entire list).

Alpha 3…well, there’s been a million posts about this game already, btu to sum it up, th scene has died because it’s been booted from the WC major, not just because it’s old. If there were a CONFIRMED tourney for it, people would enter. That said…that’scleary not going to happen, for at least one reason.

MvC2, CvS2, and 3S are here to stay, at least for this year. I think these games could stick around for quite a long time (though among the three, I have my favorite), but…who’s to say?

(random new game) is good because it’s new. If you want to garner attention for the turnament and help push the scene around a bit, this is good. If the tournament sucks, and it turns out to be a crappy game at the highest level we can find…well, try someting new next year. At least an invitational for a new game would be nice, as they tend to not have the biggest scenes yet.

(random popular 3D game) is good for similar reasons, though mainly for support from other communities. DOA4…I don’t know about. I hear it doesn’t suck, so why not? It’s certainly a very popular game. Also, we need a game that American can consistently win at, and so far we just have MvC2.

(random SNK game) is for diversity and for another solid game.

Edit: I should take this time to state that I love CigarBob.

Also, I just found out that GGSlash will be on console, finally…would a legit version of an import copy be OK to use during the tournament? All you need to do is mod your own PS2 (voiding the warranty), right?

With the SF Aniversary Edition Ultracade machines…clearly, these things are just emulaors. However, Capcom of America consented to let the things go into production, so…is there anyway Evo could do the same?

And how could I have forgotten…MvC2 Team Tournament. Bring it back.

Last year for GGXX #R, the #R community supplied modded PS2’s and legit copies of PS2 #R from Japan to get it working.

However then they were in the hands of Evo staff, who supposedly gave PS2’s back to the wrong people. in addition to all the stuff that got stolen.

I think you guys hate Smash Brothers but if I were to recommend a game you didn’t already have it’d have to be Smash Brothers Melee. Select a few solid maps, no items.

Since that’ll never happen, I don’t know. Third Strike is already up there, never drop that, I’d say stick with SC2 since SC3 sucks (At least imo).

SC2 really blows. SC3 has a better chance, at least.

I like Virtua Fighter, but we don’t have enough people for it anymore. It’d be fun to have on the side.

Someone needs to run a midnight A3 tourney on something with prize money. Enough people would be there that would enter anyways. No one is going to take A3 seriously as long as its just people saying they’d like it, and then Apoc or whoever bitching.

Here’s an idea: schedule CvS2 twice, so that when it runs over it’s time again, nobody else gets screwed.

SC2 isn’t a game everyone likes but at least it’s intact, from my experience of SC3 it seems like a really broken and at times, plain lame game. Easy 75% dmg combos and shit like that.

mvc1.

i’ll play anyone for money if evo in socal.

the only SNK game that really has a legit shot at being officially at EVO is NGBC based on the fact that it more than liekly will be released in the US in a US console by EVO time, its being played at some major arcades, everyone is playing it on PS2, and it seems to have a wide appeal to all fighting game players as it is, and it doesnt suffer from other SNK console releases in that different consoles of the same game feel different in particular aspects…

Put Guilty Gear Slash in 3v3 format. Flat out, from the start, 3v3 team format. Guilty Gear players are fairly notorious in adapting japanese styles, IMPORTING the game as a STANDARD for tournament use nationwide, it only makes sence to use our community as the testing ground for possible official team tournaments. Not only that, but it is what the player base seems to want based on posts in this thread. Give us a poll.

I have been playing slash in japan almost since it came out, and have played in team qualifiers, and especially for this game, it is the only way to go. Some character matchups as of now are more one sided than reload counterparts, and would render some character almost impossible in standard tournament format. This being said, in a team format, these characters if positioned properly can still maintain a good deal of usefulness.

Also, it will hope to cut down on the ky fest, or the anji fest depending on how quick america picks up the newer points of the game. Lets face it, ky is boring unless final showdown is glitching him out, and you will soon find anji alot less fun to watch than his #R counterpart.

Finally, character switching is retarded to begin with, but it will only get worse in slash. In reload, switching to another character for most people probably meant sol. Yet, sol was mid tier. As for the high tiers, Eddie was too hard to learn effectively as a secondary, slayer and jam took actual spacing skills. These problems will not arise with ky. He is painfully easy to pick up to use, and he kills certain characters so easily. Just because ST in america had character switching does not make the right choice for this series. Even if they preformed decent, everybody`s secondaries looked terrible when I had seen them. They looked like lifeless dolls of japanese play, none of the flair that makes the game what it is. Make the switch, or at least give us a poll. Oh and #R is garbage.

After really getting into this game I have to second this one too. Easy to pick up ( ridiculously simple ), has high level play options, tons of people are playing it…

besides obvious titles, i’d suggest DOA 4 and SC3. not really for the hardcores but to possibly draw in casual players to the scene. although they are nothin more than casual scrubs they could possibly become drawn into fighting games and try some of the more complex games. with a bit of aadvertising you could get a good turn out for these gams.

Soul Calibur 3 should be the 360 version only if it comes out in time. Apparently balance issues will be addressed in this release. It’ll be out before then in the arcade, so more players will have access to it.

AE is not appropriate for serious tourneys, let alone the biggest of them all. Sure, it’s a fun game with friends, but in casual play only. CE Bison is boring to watch, and that’s what this tournament would be all about. Trying to ban CE Bison would open up another can of worms. You can’t play this game with just the ST characters either, because some changes have been made from the arcade version and every other ST version. Look for the unofficial ST tourney.

DOA 4 is completely unknown at this point on wether or not its good. I like the fact that Evo game selection is determined in part by the game’s quality. Just wait and see on this one.

I wouldn’t judge AE until I saw it at Evo. I think it’ll turn out to be better than ST at the tournament level. It will put an end to all the old Sagats dominating because more characters can handle him than on ST by itself. There haven’t been enough big AE tourneys to know any truth. I think the old men are lazy. I’d also love to see some SF showcased at Evo that doesn’t involve super meters! lol