-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

from my limited understanding, whey is absorbed fast and is used fast. so it makes sense to me to take it when you wakeup in the morning and after a workout, so that it goes straight to your muscles.

you can get mixed whey with caesin or some shit which has a slower release of protein but you should just blend up tuna for the ultimate shake.

all this talk of protein bars and loads of whey shakes, you guys must be minted. i have a sneaky suspicion that shakes are shit compared to tuna and more expensive. 29p tesco tuna cans taito, blend that shit up with fruit juice, you can hardly taste the fish at all.

Thanks man.

LOL ha thats where I get my tuna from too, the cheapness is good, yea bars and stuff can be expensive I dont really rely on them, their just there to help if need be.

mightimao I have Designer Whey bars coconut chocolately flavor their EXPENSIVE, if you got the cash then fair enough, but dont rely on them.

What are some ways to get protein from natural foods besides chicken and eggs?

I also have this drink called Isopure (or might be Isoprotein) and it’s 20 oz., it has 40 grams of protein. Should I use this and keep on sticking to it or is there something better to use?

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Well my SRK buds, wish me luck tommorrow at the Nationals. Just got back from the early friday night weigh in and was kinda nervious not making wt class:crybaby:
Luckly I came in at 175 lbs and the cutt off for the middle wt class was 176 lbs…ooooohhhhhh yea!!!

Anyway I will post mucho pics after I get back and a detailed 8 week diet that got me this shredded.

Alright I’m off to bed for at least 7 hours I hope…LOL:rofl:

Ok, this needs to be addressed so everybody listen up. Everyone keeps asking about protein and which shakes to drink and how many to drink and when to drink them. This shit doesn’t in any way replace REAL food…it’s a CHEAP imitation. Worry more about your diet and meal frequency and you will be light years ahead of at least 50% of the people in ur gym. Probably the only time I deem them necessary is post workout…And I have somewhat of a problem with whey protein isolates too and this is it…especially with people consuming 3 or more shakes daily thinking they will grow…

If you eat 2-3 solid healthy meals and drink a bunch of shakes and ur daily caloric intake is LOW, but ur protein intake is ASTRONOMICAL, you WILL NOT grow.

Yes muscle is made of protein…but if you find urself in a caloric deficit then you won’t grow no matter how many grams of protein you take in daily.

Now to answer your first question…meat is the most common source of protein…any and all of them…some are better and cleaner than others…eggs are great and so is grilled chicken and fish…

Do you mean to tell me ur shakes contain 100 grams of protein a piece?? If so, then yes, that’s overkill…I don’t think any bodily harm is iminent but it’s just a waste of material…ur body won’t use all that…50gms of protein per meal is pushing it.

I’m just curious about using that drink every one or 2 weeks, not gonna really over do it with the stuff.

Meat doesn’t bother me too much for an all natural source, especially chicken. Eggs can be just egg whites, right? Are peanuts or any other nuts a good source to use? or just for a quick snack?

I’m just trying to bulk up, doesn’t have to be pure muscle really. Should I eat regularly or slightly more than usual (more snacks between meals)? Should I be relying mostly on good/complex carbs when eating breads and such?

Peanuts do have protein…but not very much…what you are aiming for is eating 6 balanced meals a day…carbs/protein/fats…if you do that, you won’t have any need for snacks. It takes a full meal close to 3 hours to digest, so eating every 3 hours allows ur body to take in most of what you are putting in, as opposed to just shitting everything out or storing most as fat…

I stick to complex carbs except post workout…ur not gonna eat alot of starches or bread…rice, oatmeal, black beans etc etc. Don’t forget some fibrous veggies like green beans or broccoli in small portions.

And when you bulk, clean or not…you will put on muscle, water, and fat. As when you lose weight you lose all 3 types of tissue…you want to keep fat gain to a minimum so as when you do decide to cut you have little to lose and can keep LBM loss to a minimum…as it is harder to recover.

Protein shakes do have their place don’t get me wrong. But the difference between some brands is little to none…Especially in terms of which one will net you the most noticeable short term gains. But IMO…shakes should resemble meals if you are going to use them to replace meals be it post workout or when you go to bed or whenever…and to do that…ur shake needs protein and carbs and a reasonable amount of calories overall.

everything MagnusMadness said.

for breakfast, the last thing you wanna eat is something that’ll send your insulin levels through the roof because it’s not needed as much. basically, have protein (i usually have 3-4 whole eggs with about 8 egg whites) and a complex carb. you can add just a tiny bit of fast burning carbs if you’re gonna workout sometime after breakfast too.

like Magnus mentioned, the only time you’ll use up whey as an exclusive source of protein is post-workout due to it’s uncanny ā€œabilityā€ to be absorbed at a quick rate. that said, since it gets absorbed so fast, you don’t want whey as a source of protein throughout your day because you want to be kept in an anabolic (muscle building) state. catabolism usually sets in within 1.5 to 2 hours after ingesting whey.

another thing about post-workouts: take in simple carbs! this is the time when your body is most receptive to an insulin surge to shuttle nutrients into your muscles. the carbs also turn into glycogen, which is also essentially muscle fuel.

your body can only assimliate up to about 40ish grams of protein per feeding. that’s why i kinda wonder about some of those weight gainers out there. on the labels it says 60-80 grams of protein per serving. WTH?

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Thanks guys, I’ll keep all this in mind.

Is eating egg whites just as good as eating the whole egg without all the cholesterol?

i want to have those hot ass shoulders and chest and biceps like eddie guerr…( can’t spell )

any methods to train those parts ?

you want a big chest then bench press is the simple answer and problay the best way.

and for shoulders id say shoulder press or lateral raises, and for biceps you could do various biceps curls.

You didnt mention your back or legs but you should train those also, I cant stand it when I see people Neglecting those parts, not only does it look stupid when you have bigger parts and your body is out of Proportion, but you wont be as strong as you think.

edit: oh yea dont forget your triceps either, it will help give your arms that bigger look.

my triceps are big :slight_smile: and i think i need to tone down on the working out on the back …

What’s better:

Hydroxycut or Stacker 3?

Why?? What are you doing now??

And the key to growth is a good diet…lots of calories…if your not putting on weight, guess what…ur not growing.

I think bicep workouts are a waste of time.
I might do 3 sets of biceps a week, they get worked indirectly in so many exercises I see no reason to really do any direct work with them.

I love the guys that come in and do like 5 sets of curls 5 sets of bench and then leave, and do it everyday.

Well I dont think its a waste of time, yea you biceps might be used in other exicerses but your not actually focusing on that muscle.
So when you do curls your biceps are being pushed alone and not other parts helping out.

As for those people comming in, yea their dumb, do people even realize that you actually grow while your not in the gym. the more rest your get the better you will grow.
Those guys arent giving their muscles a chance to heel, the only thing thats going to happen is that their muscle will stay the same or worse GET smaller!!!

@ thedude.com

Ah fair enough If yor already big their you got a head start.

@Slide
Dunno dude, best to search up and read some reviews for them.

i got Hydroxycut , IS an ULTIMATE FAT BURNER AND STAMINA+METABOLISM BOOSTER !!
and you won’t get cravings .

about me >__> i’m trying to burn those access fats around my belly , waist and hip …thigh too . I’m NOT going to eat TOO MUCH right now …

but i’ve had parties for the past 1 week >___> …

i’ve been doing cardio and little work out lately …
my working schedule has been occupied with outings >___>

my metabolic rate is high though , most of the girls i hang out are getting jealous of me >__> . able to eat like an elephant and lose it out and remain 152-154 lbs . all i do is just cardio and i also take Hydroxycut supplement before cardio .

for tomorrow …
O shit is 2 am … i need to go to the immigration center at 11 am and watch movie at afternoon>__>
i’m gonna sleep soon , because i want to go cardio in the early morning …

importantly , a good music i listen tend to make me mentally and physicaly fire up …
i’ve got this lethargic feeling >_> at morning …before workout and DURING workout .
lack of sleep ? is 2 am now >
> ?? is that the reason ??
what should i do to keep me active ?

I’ve been taking the Hardcore version of Hydroxy, and for leaning purposes i think it does the job quite well. I also think it’s important that it’s in liquid form because most powder filled pills don’t contain 100% of the product they endorse.

i’m done trying to lean up, i just wanted to see where i’m at with my abs and i know now that i need to blow up my lower portion.