-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

Are you kidding?? What makes you say that it’s more beneficial?? And this better be good.

Cuz taking sets to failure is how you determine what amount of weight you should be lifting…and if you don’t push yourself you are wasting ur time in the gym…I’m trying to tear down muscle tissue, not just get a pump and waste 30 minutes of my day. Everything I’ve ever read says if ur not taking ur sets to failure, you are failing to do ur sets. If I’m not taking a set to failure I at least push myself to the point that I can’t do any more reps in flawless form. If you don’t take sets to failure how could you ever gage ur own strength and track ur growth and progress??

The current buzz around “the pump” is one of the dumbest trends that I can remember in recent years.

If you honestly think you should be tkaing every set to failure, you have no idea about anythinbg related tow eightlifting and you should just quit right now because you’re overtraining.

The lactic acid build up caused by going to failure reduces growth if there’s too much. Hence why any bodybuilder/strongman never ever goes to failure.

How the fuck does tkaing it to failure dtermine how much you should be lifting? are you fucking smoking crack? Jesus christ your idiocy makes me want to punch myself in the face.

Go read, please.

IRONMAGAZINE.COM thats where Im at.

Right I should quit right now…because I’ve only gained 50 pounds since high school…and I’m about 5’9" and almost 200 pounds solid. I deadlift over 400 and squat close to 400…I’ve only doubled in strength since I started lifting 2 years ago. I should just quit cuz whatever I’m doing isn’t working at all. That’s how I’ve always trained and most people at my gym train…why else would you ever need a spotter?? Hell when I have a spotter I go PAST failure and tax the shit out of my muscles. Hell my brother used to do 5 sets of 5 going PAST failure and dude has hellacious stretch marks on his chest where he grew too fast…overtraining?? seriously doubt it…

Alright, so I only work at a supplement store and design weightlifting programs for bodybuilders. But really, what does that mean right?

It’s great that this works for you. But it won’t for 99% of people. It’s not good for your muscles to go to failure every set, it’s very plain and simple. gainging 50 lbs in all honesty has very, very little to do with this. Gaining weight is all about your diet.

ANd saying you deadlift 400 blah blah blah… you’re not the only one. You’re not going to impress me, sorry.

The point of a spotter, is so you don’t crush yourself.

5 sets of 5 is a tried and tested way to get bigger yes, but you want 5 reps with good form. Not failing on every set. Cause that’s just plain dumb.

You train bodybuilders huh?? Who are you certified through?? That’s funny that my way of doing things only works for me when the last two people I’ve trained have both put on over 20 pounds and get accused of steroid use on an almost daily basis…

What exactly is your definition of a failure rep anyway?? My definition of a failure rep is the last rep you CAN do (alone) IN form.

Now don’t get me wrong…not EVERY set is taken to failure…I do an adequate amount of stretching before I start and I also do a VERY light set to warm up with for instance…today I worked chest…I started with incline dumbell presses and grabbed 40’s and did a very slow set resting at the bottom and squeezing at the top. Then I grabbed the 80’s and did 10 reps without failing, then I go to 85’s and fail at the 9th rep, again a very slow and controlled movement squeezing at the top…and then I
grab 90’s and with a spot I fail around the 6th rep.

If you don’t take ur sets to failure, how do you know if you are getting stronger?? How do you know if what you are doing on a weekly basis is working for you at all??

Can someone else please give me some input on this subject…I would very much like to know what everyone else thinks about this…

That’s not a failure rep, read up on your jargon.

A failure rep is when you have ther drop the weight because you couldn’t it, hence the name FAILURE.

Um, I know if I’m getting stronger because the weight I use increases?
Worst part is the highest dumb bells wehave are 120’s so now I have to use the bar for bench.

and you should only be doing sets of 10,8,6 after your warm up. You’re not failing at all. You’re doing exactly what you should be.

Keep it civil guys.

I don’t really go to failure myself because I workout alone. I don’t see the point in going to failure if you’re training with intensity. To each his own I guess.

can anybody recommend some good meal plans focused on reducing body fat

Before I can post any suggestions post what kinda exercise/lifting routine your doing right now and go from there.

not lifting anything yet

crunches, leg lifts, push ups 3 times a week

interval runs and burpees 4-5 times a week

I work out alone too. That’s why I use dumbells mostly…and when I want to bench there’s usually somebody at the gym that I know who’ll be happy to spot me.

I finally joined the Gym (about 3 or two weeks ago) and been working pretty hard during weekdays. doing Cardio and Lifting 3 times a week.

I am a bit skeptical when it comes to the threadmill. I’m I really running 1 mile none stop? I remember I couldn’t even last half a mile before…why would I do now after just ONE week of going?

I run for about 20 mins non stop (if I can make it) and burn about 350 calories (or so the machine says…). If this is true and I continue excersizing at this rate I’ll lose the gut in no time :encore:

Actually Laterals are to lift weight laterally, meaning to bring it up sideways. The Lat pull is called the Lat pull because of the muscle it works out, the latissimus dorsi, which is part of your back. Lat pull isnt a lateral pull.

Yeah, treadmills make it easier because the ground is literally helping you run. Run outside. It’s better for you. Stick to the weights in the gym.

So in about 6 weeks I’ll be done and certified as a ISSA personal trainer and mabey after this I might try the Performance nutrition specialist certification. Has any one done this already ? If so how is it going for you? I already have a handful of people I write workouts and diets for just as a friend so I figured I may as well get payed for it. 35 some odd dollars a session isn’t bad side money. Being a manager for Jelly Belly isn’t exactly the big money lol. Im also planning to compete possibly three times in 2006 because you need to have competed in two shows to qualify for Team U.S.A which is where I plan to earn pro status. This is natural bodybuilding by the way ( basically taking things that are legal not exactly natural)

If anyone else is doing this w/o a associates degree lol let me know how it’s going for you and some of the things you did to get new clients. Im in Nor Cal right now and i’ll post some pics that i’ll be taking in November, mabey I can get some clients from SRK :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: Im definately open to giving free advice but somehow I doubt I’ll be taken seriously until I post some professional pics so until then :wink:

My e-mail is Nep2une222@Yahoo.com Oh yeah IM 23 years old and when I graduated highschool i was 5"5 117, I was about 138 11% bf before I got serious. now after close to two years of natural bodybuilding ( actual bodybuilding not just lifting) Im 5"9 160-165 lbs BF -7 to 8% year round , I plan to compete at about 173 to 175 lbs ripped around 4% bf which may sound impossible to accomplish by next year but it isn’t :wink:
Not when you get familiar with the ABC diet which is in my oppinion the best alternative to steroids known to man.

e-mail me about it or google it, the diet is incredible.

Nep2une222@yahoo.com

How can I naturally increase my levels of testoserone? I mean in terms of diet and work out?

Deus

Throw bench dips into your workouts also.

facing away from a bench or seat or something elevated
put your hands behind you rested on the bench with your legs are extended forward, feet resting on the ground in a almost seated position. Closer you get to the ground with your butt the more strain is put on your triceps, so make it burn. Throw in like 4 sets of 8 to 15 of these or whatever you can challenge yourself with.

Meals plans targeted towards lowering fat intake.

I don’t know your diet is like but here’s some idea’s.
Don’t look at food intake so much as pleasure but more of a means of getting the body you want, with pleasure sometimes being a side bonus :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Last time I saw you was at a Psm tourney about 2 years ago and you were about 5"10 - 5"11 and really skinny

Try multiple small meals

Don’t eat to the point of being stuffed if you start to get full just stop eating and save/ throw the rest away. Im poor and I don’t throw food away so sometimes i’ll save food to be my next meal or part of my next meal.

Eat just to the point of where you feel satisfied but might be hungry in another hour.

Here’s a sample day

Breakfast- bowl of oatmeal, 2 fruits, water

Snack- some mixed nuts, bagel ( or something small with some carbs) Water. ( basically just to take the edge off so your not starving like Marvin)

Lunch - chicken breast cut up and put in salad ( dressing is fine) 1 fruit ( apple, orange, bannana w/e) Water

Snack - pop open that can of nuts again lol mabey a couple small baked potatoes and a fruit. Water

Dinner - chicken breast, mabey cut up and put in some boxed pasta noodles or put the noodles on the side. Water

Make sure the Meal after your workout if a heavier meal like the
Lunch. And that you have some carbs in the meal before the exercise so you can actually get through the exercise. It’s not helping you if you throw up during the exercise because your so hungry. Unless you’ve gained alot of weight in the last 2 years this should be good for you, you can tinker with it if your starving to bad lol add 2 a fruit or a baked potatoe or whatever.

Don’t have anymore then 1 meal before you exercise meaning exercise in the morning because thats where you have your greatest potential for burning calories.

If your consistent with your exercising and eat something similiar to this you’ll be guaranteed to burn fat
and mabey gain a little bit of muscular shape mabey lol
but for that you’ll eventually get into some lifting.

E-mail me and let me know what your goals are so i can give you some advice that applies directly to you or next time your up in Norcal let me know and i’ll hook you up with some goods.

Whenever i do heavy weights, i always get stuck in the middle and spend a lot of energy getting past the stuck point. If i go half-way, i can lift like 185lbs. for 8-10 reps on the bench. I don’t think it’s flexibility because i have always streched a lot and always have been flexible.

Can anyone help?