-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

That av is fucked up.

someone will have to fill me in with how protein is linked to high blood pressure.

low fat, low salt diets reduce BP, you can still get protein in. Chicken breast and fish gotta be good for you right?

Yoghurt as a good food for bodybuilding? i thought it was only good for probiotic stomach bacteria and all that shit. i must of been out of the loop too long

I really don’t know how protein is linked to high blood pressure. I dont think that is the case. High-protein diets have been shown to be not so useful for hypertensive people, but I don’t think it is because of the high ingestion of protein, rather it is the fact that high-protein diets limit the ingestion of complex carbs (veggies and fruits), non-fact dairy products, whole grains etc… which have been shown to reduce hypertension. So obviously eat a lot of complex carbs.

The yogurt thing makes sense to me. It has a very nice ratio of protein/carbs/fat, has been shown to benefit in other ways (colon health). Just like evyerthing else though, it is best to eat everything in moderation and not to focus too much on one source of protein.

Fish is a great idea. I think you should look into incorporating fish into your diet, Swerve. Salmon and Trout have been shown to do great things for the heart and cholesterol they are great protein sources too.

Is milk or yogurt better? I remember looking at the nutritional values a while back and they seem almost identical. Anything the label doesn’t list I’m missing out on?

Both are good. What are you trying to do? I hear milk is good when trying to bulk. And yogurt is supposedly good all around, high in protein, etc. I don’t know the science behind yogurt as to what vitamins its high in but just make sure that you get plain yogurt, I prefer Publix brand or any local supermarket brand. If you get Dannon or one of the big yogurt companies, check to make sure theres no sugar.

Yeah plain. Still has some sugar but nowhere near as much as non-plain.
Plain usually has a ratio of protein:carbs:fat about 2:2:1.

I had a serious question regarding technique with curls.
I don’t know what this muscle group is called, but its at the ā€œbaseā€ of the neck, where its connected to the body… near those muscles on the top that are a part of the back I suppose.
I think someone called them trapezoids at work.
Anyway as I go up in weight with curls, I notice that this muscle group, at the base of the neck, is fighting tight. It’s not pain I can’t deal with, but experience, and people, have taught me that if you’re feelin pain, it’s because you’re doing something wrong.
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I would imagine that this is due to the fact that the Navy doesn’t emphasize ā€œbackā€ exercises as much as it should, and I merely took weight training for the ones we test on.

I suspect that the pain is caused due how quick other muscle groups get stronger with isolated training, accomplished with bench press and curls, squats… while the back is hurting due to dropping behind with ā€œsecondaryā€ training gained from ā€œrows,ā€ or pull ups/chin ups.

I actually hurt that part once, nearly dropped the dumb bell but exercised enough restraint not to do so in the gym, and promptly took a week off after that. Incident was months ago though.

Thinking about adding Good Mornings to my regimen. Does anyone perform this exercise regularly? And if so, have you had any problems with your lower back from doing them?

Good mornings are a great exercise. Perform it properly and you will get great benefits. I do it every now and then, switching from deadlift to squat to good mornings. No lower back pain.

Come on you guys need to get PUMPED up. RAWR

rips shirt off Hogan style and runs outside butt naked

Haha. I travelled, so I wasnt able to get a good workout for about 4 days. I hate when this happens, I feel like I am losing strength by the second. I’ll be back to deadlifting today!

You know there are numerous TV shows focusing on how to lose weight, and following people that pursue that goal?
They should have one where people are trying to gain weight (muscle) and strength. I would so watch that if they know what they are talking about… I would join it too if I could

I know this must be an oft-repeated question, but I sure as hell haven’t found a definitive answer for it yet: how do I get decent abs/6-pack? As far as I can tell–and correct me if I’m wrong–decent abs are based of your food choice (a la David Zinczenko’s Ab Diet book). I’ve also heard that you need at least 10% body fat or less for decent ab definition.

At this point, what I’ve been doing for the past 2 months or so looks like this:

  1. High-protein diet, 5-6 meals a day (I’m bulking up, but I’m careful not to OD on carbs or fatty stuff; I’m at 149 lbs).

  2. Cruches (both normal and inverse; I’m doing 4 sets of 15 a day for both)

  3. Cardio (trying to stay relatively lean, so 15 minutes of hard cardio every other day)

I mean, aside from this, is there something I’m doing wrong, or not doing enough of? It seems like I’ve reached a plateau where I see a faint shadow of ab definition, and nothing else.

maybe your’e just not low enough body fat. i know fuckers who never work out, but are skinny as shit so you can see a weak six pack. yes pathetic, but still visible.

work on size by doing weighted situps or hanging leg raises (weighted if you can) so your abs get larger and stick out further making them visible.

You are talking about roided out bodybuilders, not powerlifters. To lift for strength and power, one must recover and one must eat big. Too many lifters stall out while trying to follow the latest program in Flex magazine, when those who eat big and lift heavy pass them by.

If you want to get strong - a good start is Bill Starrs 5X5

But yeah, all that manipulation and metabolic windows is such minutae compared to ā€œeat moreā€ and ā€œlift heavyā€. Get plenty of food, with plenty of protein, get plenty of rest and lift heavy - it’s really that simple.

By lifting heavy, I mean compound movements like Ass-to-grass squats (gotta go paralell thigh or lower to ā€œreallyā€ squat), deadlifts, Oly lifts. The groth hormose stimulated by excercising such large muscle groups flood the system and cause ALL muscles to grow, even the ones that are passive in those lifts. Bench and pullups have their place also.

But pec flys, skullcrushers, the nancy machine (smith machine), pulldowns, curls (stay OUT of the squat rack!) are movements more suited to a bodybuilder trying to bring out a lagging bodypart than to somoene trying to get strong.

Performance vs. appearence. (heck, even if you want appearence, a lot of the best bodybuilders started out as PL’s - Ronnie Coleman, Sergio Olivia, Franco Columbo to name a few)

First, re-evaluate the place curls have in your routine. 2nd - to strengthen your trapezious - do heavy dynamic shrugs or regular shrugs - gotta go insanely heavy though (not deadlift heavy, but yer thinking right if you went there) - they are strong.

Oh and peeps, check out sherdog’s strength and power forum - those guys know what they are talking about when it comes to functional strength (as opposed to beach muscles) http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f13/

This thread has an article by Keith Wassung on trap development

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f13/freakish-traps-769663.html

Basically what tech master said. I remember a guy on some weight lifting forums always said ā€œgreat abs are made in the kitchen not in the gym.ā€ That’s the truth. So basically you need to have your body fat pretty low.

Anyways, got back to the gym today after taking a couple days off. This weekend sucked, I had some drinks one night and ate like shit two days in a row. I was so not motivated to workout today. Hopefully tomorrow will be better.

you can have visible abs at around 12% body fat depending on body type…

has anyone ever gone through a period in time where they dont feel like eating anything but fruits and juices???

im outi

Roberth

Only 1 1/2 weeks left of this semester left and then I’m cut off from the gym. The summer will be nice, but I’ll miss the convenience of a gym. Lifting in my basement feels crappy now.

Convenience of a gym? really?

I lift in my basement… how is the gym more convenient?

I am not being sarcastic by the way

no, that sounds kind of gross

overdose of fructose/glucose

I eat fruit in moderation, and I gotta water down my juices