-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

wow its been a while since i read this thread.

Netology, post a picture of yourself or no one will take you seriously. I see you preching gospel about how much you should eat etc. You need to be less of a prick, and back up what you believe to be sound advice pictures. I have posted pics in the thread already and my old av used to be a great shot

Giving people advice in here is easy, just tell them what has worked for you, what more can you do? No point in telling people they’re wrong for soing something different. I train with people who eat 1/4 of what i do, barely 60grams of protein a day and are big (3 plate bench) and leaner than me.

Let me say this as someone who has been fat thin ripped muscular and everything inbetween, if I hit my 1lb of protein per pound of bodyweight, 7+ hours sleep, consistant training and moderate carbs, i will grow at a steady pace.

Right now i’m on:

Meal 1 (7.30am): protein shake
Meal 2 (9.30 am): peanut butter on toast OR leftovers from the previous nights dinner, today was a teeny bit of brown rice and some chicken , maybe 20 grams.
Meal (1pm/5pm)3&4: at work i have a whole chicken and a tub of cottage cheese with 2 brown roll. not much carbs there.
Meal 5 (8pm): protein shake
Meal 6 (9pm): whatever my g/f cooks usually about 40 grams of protein, low carbs maybe a bit of rice the size of a fist.
Meal 7 (11pm) : protein shake

I’m down the gym after work on weeknights, training one bodypart a day and doing 15 mins cardio after each session to lose my belly!

Try not to stress about your eating and training , just keep it simple and consistant and you’ll be fine.

Yeah, I just have this thing about keeping my nuts their normal size and avoiding things that make you prone to cancer. I know it sounds crazy. Anyways, wheres the pics you faggot?

Mullah: You used to be fat? You seem like such a slim/fit dude, I couldn’t picture you fat.

What are some Ab exercises to do with weight? I tried holdinding a weight agaist my chest while I did sit ups on a delcine bench (I felt the weight in in my back) and I ended up jabing it in to my abs. I tried holding it out in front of me to, but then it got to easy and I felt like a tard.

One more question if you are trying to lose weight (not me) do you still do the eat six times a day thing but keep your calories low? I feel like I should know more about how to lose weight. I want to expand my knowlege.

You could do a crunch machine where you could pile up the weight. Or hanging leg lifts with a dumbell. Just grab a pullup bar, take a dumb bell and grab it between your feet and lift your knees to your stomach. I’m sure theres plenty others.

If you’re trying to lose weight, I think the best thing to do is what you said eat lots of small meals, avoid fatty foods, don’t have 2nd helpings, drink lots of water, cut out soda/alcohol, exercise, find a sport you can play with other people or friends. You will drop weight in no time.

Waits for Netology to post what you’re SUPPOSED to do

I dunno how your meal plan works for you, but if I eat like that I’d drop weight fast. The guys at your gym could be genetic freaks, or on gear, who knows, I’m talking about average people and hardgainers, not guys who have 20 inch biceps from taking out their garbage.

Also, your routine could work, many routines “work” and many diets will allow you to “grow,” but when I say 6-7 MEALS a day and protein shakes on top, I’m talking about eating to grow optimally. This is what pro. trainers recommend.

Lets say you need 4000 calories a day to grow. Thats 7 meals at 570 calories each. A 1scoop protein shake is like 100calories. That means one of your other meals is going to have to be 470calories bigger (1040)…thats huge, and inefficient, it will get you too full to eat your next meal on time.

GOD just shut the fuck up you faggot.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d138/themullah/tranform.jpg

Biggzy, as you can see, i’ve been flabby, built and currently i’m somewhere in the middle. Benching 2 plates aside :frowning: and squatting 3-3.5 plates. Got a little layer on my stomach but it’s coming off.

I have a penchant for junk food and injuries so my body fluctuates between being in good shape and shit, but as i get older i’m generally becoming more consistant.

Netology - i’m not disagreeing with what you’re saying, i just think you could get your point across as you did in your last post to me without berating people. Oh i forgot to mention i actually splurge on my eating at weekends probably doubling or trippling my carbs, this isn’t for any other reason other than i eat healthy during the week so i can eat junk and relax on weekends. Perks the metabolism up so it actually helps me put on size and lose fat. KFC and curries, fish n chips + burgers FTW

I would advocate eating more carbs than i do if you find you’re not putting on size AND YOU TRAIN AND SLEEP PROPERLY TOO but i’ve seen from my experience is that one of the 3 is out of whack.

So you think I should change my approach, not so much what I’m saying, but how I say it?

Ok.

Anybody else seeing the irony in this post? :rofl:

Unless you’re in the gym 2-3 hours a day, twice a day like a SERIOUS bodybuilder, I doubt any one of you here actually needs 6-7 meals a day. That’s retarded. Your body doesn’t need all that much food. You won’t be nutritionally deficient because you ONLY ate 4-5 times a day and drank 2-3 protein shakes. That’s already an assload of food.

Trust me when I say this, your body will NOT break down and go into a catabolic state because you ONLY had 3500 calories. Fuck that scare tactic shit. You will be just fine.

I swear, some of you are eating harder than you train. Eat whole food 4-5 times a day, and have your 1-2 shakes + creatine, and train with intensity, and you’ll grow. It’s really not that complicated.

Dudes were getting big and strong decades before anyone knew about all this scientific nutrition shit. You think those poor ass athletes from 3rd world countries who won gold medal worried that they weren’t getting 2g of protein per lb of bodyweight or that they did not get their 6-8 meals a day? These guys would be lucky if they got white bread and milk 3-4 times a day.

Stop stressing and just lift.

TWICE A DAY, 2-3 HOURS? Thats overtraining, even for guys on roids with insane genetics and recovery.

I need 6-7 meals a day. I tried 4, I tried 5, I saw some results, but nothing special.
My friend needs the same.

If you’re 6’2 225 lbs, ya 3500 calories won’t even cut, neither will 4000…

All the pro trainers recommend this scheme. Am I gonna listen to amateurs on forums, or people who train bodybuilders? Hmmm…

Scare tactic? No, the bigger you get the more calories you need. Thats how bodies works. It’s more efficient to split up your meals into 6 or 7 smaller meals.

6-7 meals is the best for your metabolism and pretty much everything else.
Again, you don’t have to be optimal, but you can at least know what it is and shoot for it.

Until you plateau and realize you need more meals a day, and more protein…etc

Man the transformation from the first 2 pics to the last pic is insane. Good job Mullah :tup:

No, it’s not overtraining when you’ve got the proper gear and base your entire life around it, like SERIOUS bodybuilders. Plenty of Mr. Olympia spend 2 hours twice a day in the gym, once in the AM and once in PM. This is the same with Olympic Weightlifters, who work out sometimes 3 times a day, an hour each session, SIX TIMES a week.

I’m well aware of all this. My point is, some people stress way too much on the nutrition part, because they’re so scared of going into catabolic or missing the best “window” for feeding, when sometimes the best thing to do is just fucking lift harder with more intensity.

Eating 4-5 meals a day instead of 6-7 meals will not break you. It’s not a big deal, is all I’m saying.

thats far from dieting, depending on your height and weight that could be “bulking”…average for a normal healthy dude is like 2200-2400 calories…also bulking is overrated…ive tried it and it did nothing but add mostly fat, same thing with the most of the people that i know who tried it…

also you still have not posted a picture of yourself…we are still waiting…

“I doubt any one of you here actually needs 6-7 meals a day. That’s retarded. Your body doesn’t need all that much food.”

strictly health wise speaking, actually eating 6 times a day isnt retarded and doesnt necessarily mean its a lot of food, if you limited to 2200 calories thats not a lot all your doing is splitting the way your body receives food or intakes that 2200. and actually its much more beneficial and healthy for your body to receive food in short frequencies and low amount…it processes it more efficiently and is easier on your body…

im outi

Roberth

But that’s not all year round is it?

As for eating. the 6-7 times a day is optimal, but I don’t do it. My days are usually 3-4 meals and a shake after the gym.

About a month ago I was released from crutches and my arms were started to look better and firm up… well this has caused me to start lifting. I can’t really do cardio of any kind since I have to be careful with my foot, but weight lifting is okay.

I have a few questions though. I have high blood pressure and high cholesterol so I just cannot eat anything with protein… and I have to eat egg substitute. So would a protein supplement help? It is very difficult for me to get the amount of protein I need… so I am assuming it will be difficult for me to build muscle after a certain point?

Thanks,
Adam

I think incorporating low-fat yogurt into your diet would help…

It’s a good source of protein, and is shown to reduce high blood pressure and bad cholesterol. Not to mention other benefits like fighting colon cancer, possible life-extending properties etc…

I would talk to a dietician and/or doctor if I were you, though…

Thanks.

I visit my doctor regularly, and my g/f is on her way to becoming a dietitian/nutritionist so she is my main resource.

We picked up some yogurt today at the store so hopefully that will help. She brought the protein idea up… but I’m just not sure.

If I could go full force and workout with the level of intensity that I want to workout at… I would go for the protein… but since my foot is healing still… i’m a little hesitant to go nuts.

This video make me not want to eat yogurt

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http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=124

I eat yogurt on the day that I work out…
Your body is much more prepared to deal with sugar after a workout…

eat plain yogurt.