-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

I’m scared of “stacking” I just wanted something to supplement my regime. I’m losing about 1- 1.5 lbs a week (1,300 calories, high protein) and 3 days a week of cardio and 1 day of yoga. I don’t need anything to curb my appetite or energy. I have tons of energy and I feel satisfied when it comes to my hunger. I just thought I can buy something to give me that extra edge over just diet and exercise alone. Any other recommends then?

eat 6 times a deal small meals…

he also mentioned HIIT if you dont already do that in your cardio days…

dont need to buy anything to lose weight most of it like ecro said wont work unless you are already doing what you are supposed to do…

ephedra shit is probably the best, old school hydroxycut was amazing…

im outi

Roberth

Unless you’re 4’11" and 90 lbs, 1300 calories is not enough.

Here’s a big secret about losing weight that the “Personal Trainers” at commercial gyms won’t tell you, traditional cardio does jack shit. It’s about metabolism, pure and simple.

Regardless, to answer your question, the ECA stack is just Ephedrine, Caffeine and Aspirin. Ephedrine is available without a prescription behind the counter at any drugstore as a bronchodilater (like bronkaid or primatene). It’s held behind the counter because Ephedrine is an ingredient in Crystal Meth production, so is therefore a monitored substance. If that seems frightening, I’ve heard anecdotally that Biotest’s HotRox and Venom Hyperdrive are good commercial pills.

Whoa, whoa, whoa…

Are you saying that cardio is not worth doing if you are trying to lose weight? Please correct me if I misinterpreted this, but expending more calories than you take in seems to be the consensus on how to lose weight.

I agree that getting your metabolism to speed up is important though.

For weight loss, traditional cardio blows in terms of time invested and positive returns. Of course, if you enjoy long distance runs or are training for a marathon, it’s fine.

Weight loss is, as you stated, calories burned > calories consumed. However, you’re discounting the sheer quantity of calories your basal metabolism can burn through in a day. Muscle burns calories by merely existing. This is the basis of why behemoth bodybuilders and powerlifters eat upwards of 8000 calories a day simply to maintain weight. Dave Tate, a powerlifter who has totaled Elite, used to consume 10,000 calories a day.

Based on that, by increasing muscle mass, you invariably increase basal metabolism. It’s been researched that an hour of heavy resistance training will, in the long run, burn more calories than an hour of LSD running. This is because muscle synthesis, repair and maintenance requires a huge amount of calories.

Lastly, HIIT is also incredibly effective because it increases your O2 consumption and metabolism throughout the day. Traditional cardio burns a lot of calories for the duration of the exercise, but ceases immediately after you stop. There is little to no long term, thermic effect.

The place I go to for Cardio is a park which is 1 mile each side so I end up doing 4 miles all the way around. Can I get an example of the best way to tackle those 4 miles with HIIT? Thanks guys. =)

Fountain Valley? =p

HIIT is High Intensity Interval Training. What it means is that you have an interval where you go at maximum intensity for a short duration of time, then you have a rest interval, then another max intensity interval, and repeat. The original studies were done on a stationary bike using 20 seconds of intensity followed by 10 seconds of rest (Tabata cycles). Nowadays, you can adapt it to however you see fit. The keys are to remember to keep intensity as high as possible, followed by just enough rest so that you can go again. You should not be able to go all 4 miles if you’re doing this properly.

I can’t do all 4 eh? either way I’m screwed, even when I’m done, I still gotta walk all the way back to my car. LOL 4 miles either way unless i just go one side of the square and 2 two miles total.

like i dont think you can last 4 miles of HIIT hahaha…i would aim for minutes like 30 min…

and you can do 3 interval pace like one is walk, run, 90% sprint…with 10 seconds for each interval so you would do like walk 10 seconds, run 10 secons, sprint 10 seconds…and do that for like 30 min (although the first time you do this 30 min is really extreme IMO) you can experiment with it…actually 20 min of hiit is pretty serious to me IMO haha…

im outi

Roberth

…no lifting?

I only lift with my gym partner and he’s been MIA. =/

how long have you been losing 1-1.5 lbs/week for???

im outi

Roberth

just from reading a few brief posts, this guy knows what he’s talking about.

read here for a similar explanation : http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2008/02/25/the-science-of-fat-loss-why-a-calorie-isnt-always-a-calorie/

2 months now.

Chun Li,

What kind of lifts are you doing that you can’t do them without a partner? You can bench/squat in the power rack with safety pins in order to work around that if thats part of the problem. Don’t let something like not having a workout partner stop you from achieving your goals.

this sounds like you’re following some type of low carb diet regimen.

you may want to check out this post by Tim Ferriss… I’ve tried this program for 2 months now, and i’ve lost at least 25 lbs of fat and put on 15 lbs of muscle. very doable, and sounds like you are already on the same track.

^^ that’s a trip…im pretty much eating all that stuff except for the beef and pork (i’ll eat it but rarely)… im not doing low carb purposely but the carbs i eat are all whole grain or it mainly comes from veggies…

thanks a lot =)

Everyone should lift heavy, guys, girls, young, and old. Of course, heavy is variable, just so long as it’s a lot of effort.

Girls doing 2lbs. pink dumbbell curls on a stability board need to be reeducated.

Guys doing 2lbs. pink dumbbell curls on a stability board need to be shot.

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/7habits.htm

^ The best basic set of guidelines for healthy eating.

I lift pretty heavy ( i think)… usually 12.5 dumbbells for certain arm exercises…and i’ll use 20 lbs dumbbells for the chest press… and when it comes to benching… ill bench the bar and 12.5 pounds on each side… i dont know if thats considered heavy but it is for me! hahaha

Co-sign.

The best way to not lose muscle while dieting is to keep lifting heavy, as to give your body a reason to keep it around.