-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

Sometimes… it’s just not your fault. Sometimes there’s just nothing you can do if you aren’t recovering in time. The only thing is, take more time off. There have been lots of people who’ve gotten great results from just lifting hard 2 times a week. You don’t have a be a total gym rat to see results. Beside, what’s your medical condition? And what’s your work out look like?

I wish it was sometimes but… it’s usually after every one. I do 1 muscle group each workout (day 1:back, day 2:chest etc.), usually 4 or 5 exercises per session and I’m in the gym around 4 times a week. Doctors have never really been sure about exactly what I have, but it’s basically a collection of “syndromes”. Two of the biggest factors would be chronic fatigue and chronic pain.

lmao well shit, when you’re diagnosed with chronic fatigue and chronic pain, there really isn’t any advice that would help other than rest more.

But seriously, seeing as that’s what you have to live with, don’t concentrate on quantity; focus on quality. Cut back the amount of time you are in the gym, and crank up the intensity and volume when you are in the gym.

Seriously, try two days a week, and do full body hard, and see how it works.

try not doing 1 muscle group each workout, trying doing 2 or 3 or maybe switch to a full body routine and cut back on the sets…

im outi

Roberth

Hm, should one incorporate negatives into everything if possible regardless of the program/exercise?

For those who were little (around 120-150Lb) and are now big (180+) from working out and packing some muscle…

How many grams of protein are/were you taking per kg of body weight?

I think I need to up mine… I take about 1.2g protein/kg of body weight

i have never really incorporated negatives at all…not really necessary IMO…

one interesting study i read in relation to …“slow reps” (negatives can fall into this i guess)…is that they took several pro tennis athletes and in their workout programs they told them to do VERY slow reps…very slow mean 7-8 seconds for 1 REP…the study was done to see whether this would increase strength to a higher degree than somone who was traditionally training for strenght…so they have 2 sample sizes…and the study found that the athletes who did the 7-8 seconds per 1 rep significantly increased their strength over the other group of athletes where were normally training for strength…i dont remember the exact numbers but it was impressive…

im outi

Roberth

Interesting. Why do you think they’re not necessary?

Negatives are conducive only to a certain number of exercises. They’re great for chins/pullups, and I can see how you can potentially incorporate them in the bench if you have a good spotter. However, for certain exercises, they’re either impossible (olympic lifts) or just plain dangerous (deadlift/squat). Other than to get yourself primed to do more chinups, I don’t see them being much more useful for the other lifts as either doing heavy unrack/reracks or simply lowering the weight until you can do full reps.

To Ryad:

If you’re average height or above and under 150 lbs, don’t get caught up in g/kg/lb/stone of protein. Just fucking eat.

It hurts my anus just thinking about getting that much protein a day. 160g of protein daily is massive, and I’ll shit bricks, if I’m lucky to shit at all.

depends what you work out for but for muscle hypotrophy, there really isnt an evidence that negatives do anything to stimulate hypotrophy more than if you were to use the rep scemes from general knowledge of creating muscle growth…

im outi

Roberth

Gotcha Heat and erco. :tup:

list the supplements you guys use

mine are
Animal multi vit
SizeON creatine
White flood pre workout/NO booster
Purple Wraath BCAAS
Golden Finish post workout/waxy maize an other goodies
Casein and Whey isolate protein (ON)
and alooooot of food :smiley:

Creatine
Fish oil

That’s it.

how long you been lifting for?

going on my 3rd year, ill be cutting for the first time in early march.

On and off, almost 10 years nows. I’m 24, been lifting since about 16.

Right now, I’ve been taking whey powder and fish oil is the newest supplement (both of which I ran out of). Next order of supps. I’m getting, gonna add a multivitamin along with the other 2.

Also to add another question for everyone else, how long have you guys been lifting and how old are you? I’m 18, been lifting 1 1/2 years.

except for the fact that carbohydrates/sugars are toxic

i’ll stick to my meat/cheese/fat diet thank you

wouldn’t fiber supplements help with that?

meh fiber…

best to eat more fat along with the protein…

stick some peanut butter in your shakes or olive oil or heavy whipping cream

eat more fatty meals…