-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

ya its possible, just takes some experience and figuring out how your own body works. Remember if you are training properly, and getting enough protein, the most optimistic amount of muscle you will put on in a month is 1-2lbs. The rest will be excess water, fat, etc…

So really, you have to figure out how many calories a day you need to get the right amount of protein (1-2grams per pound of bodyweight) while eating enough to support muscle growth but not put on bodyfat.

So if you are gaining 1pound a week total. thats 4 lbs a month, half of which MIGHT be muscle. This is a pretty decent way to go, just weigh yourself constantly. If in one week you put on 3lbs, you are doing something wrong…

The reason you gained your belly back so fast is because you were eating carbohydrates, rice, bread…etc.
Carbs have tons of calories, and specially refined carbs like white bread and white rice…they slow down your metabolism since they break down into sugars when you digest them and have basically no nutritional value…so cut out the crappy carbs
If you are having trouble eating too much, you could always add in more cardio to your workout routine, but its best to find a balance between them all

carbs don’t make people fat. Eating anything in excess makes you fat. Balance is key…

“balance bad, everything bad”…

who said that? Anybody know?

Half right. Calories make people fat, and Carbs easily increase the amount of calories in any diet and also slow down your metabolism - making people fat. If you’re gonna cut something out of your diet in order to lose weight, you cut out carbs not fat, not protein.

Its actually possible to lose weight on a low-carb diet while increasing your caloric intake.

Due to the fact that you limit your intake of glucose, since Carbs basically turn into sugar once digested, your body begins to convert it from other sources, like protein. So a steak that would normally give you say, 330 calories in your normal diet, might only give you 260 calories on a low-carb diet, since some of the energy during the protein conversion process is lost. Not to mention the body begins to produce more ketones in order to burn more fat while on a low carb diet. So your fat conversion process is also effected calorically.

I accidently went on a low-carb diet for 2-3 weeks once, I wanted to eat healthy so I just ate fresh veggies and different meats all the time. I didn’t realize I cut out carbs almost 90%. After the 3 weeks, I lost like 11pounds…And I was eating to get full each meal.
When I eat to get full on my normal diet with carbs, I just stay at the same weight. So I know it works from personal experience.

I know about interval training and all, but it’s just this pain. I heard it’s normal so that doesn’t bother me, what I want to do is increase my threshold for it so I’d be able to run more rather than ending up walking more than I run.

What? I didn’t eat for 3 days one time and i lost weight, so I know that not eating works from personal experience too…

Obviously, if a person is trying to burn FAT, then they should limit their FAT intake. We do need fat in our diet, but not saturated animal fats, we need fats from nuts and oils and other sources of essential fatty acids.

Carbs do not slow down your metabolism. Quite the contrary, limiting or cutting out carbs all together will slow ur metabolism down. There is a direct correlation between the hormone leptin and carb intake. This is where refeeds/carb cycling come into play, but you weren’t talking about cycling carbs, but eliminating them.

err…I know I should be reading but here are some basic questions for you xperts around here.

is it bad to work out for like an hour ?? I dont really get tired but I dont lift too much…I just do the best I can. just started btw…for now I am getting used to being there 3-4 times a week.

and how much do I need to run ? I am 5’11" and 155lbs. someone told me atleast 5 min walk then run 15 then cooldown, so about 25 minutes and 1.80 miles(according to the treadmill). I can also ride my bike to the gym(about 2 miles) and if I do that, I can skip the running part and start lifting ?

Hi guys i need some serious help in getting into better shape. I’m 19 years old my height is is about 5’8 and i weight 120 pounds. I’ve weight 120 for about 3 years and i feel i gotta make s strong effort to change. Ideally my goal is to gain at least 20 pounds. That way i could start feel more conformtable about my body. I join the gym recently and i was wondering if you guys got any tips to gain weight and muscle.

Depends on what you’re doing. Running I’m not so sure about, but a 2 mile bike ride probably uses less energy then a 2 mile walk/jog/run.

Do deadlifts, squats, bench press for starters, get your form down first for optimal results. Magnus has a few programs written up for increasing size somewhere around here.

You also need to eat at least every 3 hours. Try getting a good amount of protein in your meals, take in unprocessed carbs, such as whole wheat bread instead of white. Drink milk, it’s great.

I covered really basic things, so there’s probably a lot more to be said.

when i first started, i was cutting carbs pretty fervently, but i noticed that when i uppped carb intake, started eating wheat spaghetti/pasta and had some wheat bread to go with my eggs and such, not only was i more energized for the day and had much better workouts, but the next day i also had a lot of energy…

i now feel more sluggish if i just eat eggs, chicken/fish and veggies etc. all day and don’t have some good carbs… i try to stay away from stuff with corn syrup, anything white (bread, rice, potatoes etc.)… i’ll indulge, but only on the weekends at very moderate portions…

like everyone says, just don’t over do it and make sure to stay active…

just my experience… shrug

Obviously you lose weight if you dont eat for 3 days. Just like if you go on a low carb diet.

First of all, you don’t burn fat by not eating fat. Thats not how the body works. By decreasing your fat intake your body will enter a state where it stores fat any chance it gets.

Secondly, BODY FAT comes from various sources, not directly proportional to the amount of fat you eat. This sort of mentality reminds me of people trying to lose belly fat by doing sit ups…hilarious

Its pretty common knowledge in the scientific community that the most efficient dietary way to lose weight is low carb diet. not low fat. Get with the times

Obviously you lose weight if you dont eat for 3 days. Just like if you go on a low carb diet. Good point, but its not practical and thus not relevant.

First of all, you don’t burn fat by not eating fat. Thats not how the body works. By decreasing your fat intake your body will enter a state where it stores fat any chance it gets.

Secondly, BODY FAT comes from various sources, it is not directly proportional to the amount of fat you eat. This sort of mentality reminds me of people trying to lose belly fat by doing sit ups…hilarious, and primitive. Stop with the misinformation.

When you eat carbs, like potatoes and white bread and pasta and shit like that, you are in a way just giving your body high amounts of glucose. WHich creates an insulin spike, which then increases testosterone levels, while slowing down your whole metabolism which makes the liver convert all that sugar to fat. Surprise.

Calories are only half the answer, how your body metabolizes them is what matters. And this is greatly effected by which TYPE of calories you intake. Carbs are metabolized rapidly, but in return they reduce your bodies metabolism process because barely any calories are burned in order to process them. So when you consider your caloric intake, you must think about gross calories versus net calories. This is why you can have a 2000 calorie diet a day by eating veggies, meat and raw food and not gain weight, and then have a 2000 calorie diet a day consisting of bread, potatoes, sugar, pop drinks and white rice and gain weight.

I thought it was balancing alkaline and acidic foods.

i HIGHLY doubt that…

im outi

Roberth

It is relevant. You are talking about arbitrary weight loss. Therefore, just not eating is the fastest means possible. You can lose alot of muscle on low carb diets if ur not careful. Your body has to get energy from somewhere. Familiar with gluconeogenesis?

Not correct. A state of starvation and subsequent storage is triggered when leptin levels are low, this is why someone who is carb cycling refeeds 2x a week or more. You’ve got some reading to do.

Fat can be stored when you ingest any macronutrient in excess…I never said that…don’t put words in my mouth. But fat has the lowest TEF value (lower than carbs) and a tendency to be stored. You need to read up on bioenergetics…fat can be used for energy and/or burned, but only in the presence of oxygen. U see where I’m goin with this?

What about complex carbs like whole grains and sweet potatoes and brown rice that don’t cause an insuline spike?? A person should avoid simple carbs and sugars?!?!? No fucking way?!?!? I didn’t know that?!?!

First off, like I said earlier, carbs have a higher TEF value than fat. (10-15%) And I never advocated ingesting simple carbs and sugar. Obviously a person can go without these the rest of their life.

Good luck with ur future studies.

So would you guys suggest a “cheat” day while on a diet, Not saying to go nuts the whole day but mabey one meal a week where you just eat what you want?

One bad meal a week is alright, I’d even say two if you eat at least three times each day.

Not to change the subject, but that’s exactly what I’m trying to tell my dad. He barely does anything except walk the dog 2 times a day for 20 minutes per walk, and thinks all he needs to do is eat 2 meals a day and do sit-ups to get rid of his 3-months-preggers-looking paunch. I tell him “eat more meals and do more cardio” but despite my build and gains, I somehow don’t know what I’m talking about. This guy’s been trying to sabotage me ever since I started lifting. He actually told me “It doesn’t make sense to limit the types of food you eat. It would be better if you ate everything, get fat (?!), then (get this) turn the fat into muscle.” and another bs line he gave me “All this working out you’re doing is pointless, cuz muscular builds run in my family (not true…it’s just that the high-paying jobs back then were REALLY physical jobs that built you up…and shortened your healthy years). You’re not doing anything, fuckin’ 'round lifting weights. You’re gonna get THAT muscle anyway.” Never mind that people don’t miraculously grow muscle past late puberty, and certainly not at 24.

small revival.
so last Sunday i fell and sprained my ankle. it’s been six days so far and i never left the house at all and have been eating lots of crap. my stomach has gotten bigger and i realized im the fattest i have ever been in my life.(231 lbs. 17 yrs old) starting tomorrow im going back to work which is in a diner and starting next week i work Friday-Sunday. so what i want help is with a schedule i could do which could help lose weight this summer and try to lose this fat and get skinny again where i can just look down when i take a shower and see my dick without being covered by my fat stomach. i have all the kinds of food i need in the diner but i don’t know how to start since ya niggas know more about this then me i would appreciate the help.

Quick Question… what kind of supplements do people take every day? The search brought me here, but I can’t read through it all to find out the answer to this question.

hahaha