have we discussed cheap, real cheap, but healthy food yet?
on a diff note, do all of you buy your food in bulk like at sam’s club and stuff?
Just got me some egg whites…
I just had to add one egg (yolk and all), to make it a bit yellow and to give it more of a normal eggs taste…
Definately will keep doing this, as it is probably a lot more healthier than my 3eggs a day routine…
I am getting tired of turkey cold cuts…
I dont think I can do what you are doing magnus… I feel like I will screw up majorly without personal instruction
True though, If I just practice with a broom or something for form… I just want someone experienced to see my form before I move on
From what I know, trans fat altogether is bad, too much causes hardening of the arteries (schelerosis or some spelling like that).
Input on that would be nice.
Olympic lifts are that hard to get form even on light weight?
That’s what I would categorize ‘everyday strength’ as, as well. The ability to do manual labor over a long period of time. Like you said, lifting an object from point A to point B, without fatiguing.
For this strength, there’s no better exercise then the deadlift. It’s quite simply the best overall body exercise. The deadlift will work every muscle you mentioned, and then more.
Squat is obvious.
Grip strength is also HUGELY underrated. If you can only do one arm exercise for the rest of your life, make it a grip exercise. Grip/forearm strength >>>>>>>>>> tris and bis by a fucking MILE. Everything you ever lift in life, you first have to be able to grip and hold on to it. Farmer’s walk is a great exercise for grip strength. Grab two dumbbells, hold them by the sides, and just walk around your gym for as long as you can hold on to them.
Imo, these 3 are the best everyday functional lifting strength exercises you can do.
And yeah, Oly lifting really is hard to do properly. If you’re serious about it, get a certified coach to teach you. Or you can soldier it up and learn off youtube instructional videos lol.
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Totally true about grip training…
everyone should incorporate that in their training
Thanks, lol, I won’t try the O-lifts right now, but I’ll change up my program and post here right before I try it. Probably will be in a month or so.
first off, what’s expensive and what’s cheap iyo? second, what food items are you classifying as healthy foods?
it’s difficult, if not impossible, to eat healthy and not shell out a few more bucks than usual…
i think Americans are spoiled by the processed foods and junk foods that are so readily available… someone once told me food is cheaper in the US than anywhere else in the world, and that’s not only the convenient over processed foods, simple sugar foods etc… but also organic, natural and just plain healthier foods (lean meat and produce etc.)
the cheap bag of 99cent chips or 99cent burger simply gives the impression that the alternative seems expensive… it’s just a matter of making healthy living a priority and putting aside a little more money as an investment towards a healthier life…
there are some instances where people have been cornered into having to rely on cheap meals and such, but for the most part, it’s just a matter of a bit of sacrifice…
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as for cheap stuff, i’m not gonna even play like i’m as educated as some others on this board, but some stuff i use that are cheap are:
designer whey protein from BJS (like $20 for a box)… it’s a decent product for a good price…
eggs are always good and always a pretty cheap breakfast food…
i’m pretty much fruits (apples and berries), greens, nuts and chicken breast, turkey cuts, salmon and or tuna on weekdays and part of the weekend… by cutting out junk food and soda etc., my meals/snakcs are blander (not necessarily… there are some great spices and ish people give me… to spicen things up) and each item is a little more expensive, but overall it works out… i’m not hurting harder than usual in grocery expenses…
it’s the eating out and trying to keep it lean that hurts the wallet…
peanut butter can also last you a while and is pretty cheap… even the natural/organic kinds…
So i’m 4 weeks into my cutting cycle… man I never realized how tough cutting is man… sheesh …
I know alot of you know I preached about bulking up cause thats what i did best. but this year I’ve beent trying to cut up more than everything
The workouts are so grueling man… the only thing that sucks is working out with lighter weights to get those 15 to 20 reps in. I feel like a pussy breaking a sweat doing chest flies with only 60lb weights but trying to get up to 20 reps is a freaking killer I’ve been having to use a thermo genic just to keep up my energy for the workout and gakick for quick recovery.
4 more weeks to go… then break than another 8 weeks then bulking again.
that’s all 
get strong Bromos!
i understand it is your opinion but you are not really backing it with anything on why it is better…
and i also disagree because it depends how you split your workout…if you do upper1,lower1, rest, upper2, lower2, rest, rest…there is no reason for a rest between each workout day because you have enough rest between when you first hit that particular muslce group to the next time…
like in the example i gave you have a 3 day rest bewteen the upper workouts…
but like if you are doing whole body workouts i can see how you woud want to structure your rest periods like that…so that is why i said it depends on how you are structuring your work outs…cause your 3 day split will not always be optimal for the variety of programs people have…
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cutting imo is all about losing weight like 95% and not about how you lift (under the assumption that you train for hypertrophy and will continue to do so during the cutting period)…
this is from experience…if you have fat you have fat, you have to lose it to look cut and doing 15-20 reps will not help you lose fat…your diet will help you lose fat…
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Hey, so I am in a postion where I will be unable to workout with weights for an extended period of time. A couple of years ago I remember hearing alot of things about effective workouts programs using only your own bodyweight. I was wondering if anyone could give me insight into thats or better yet links to a reigiem or thread about such things or somthing.
Im also doing the master cleanse for 20 days and am concerned about losing tons of muscle doing so. Anyone do this before?
Thanks
Like I posted earlier, I only posted the relevant days of my workout week. I do legs on Thursdays. I started doing front squats this week, and they were difficult because i’m not used to the weight distribution being toward the front, but it was okay. I didn’t feel any burn afterward, and was kinda dissapointed. Thought I wimped out on it. I woke up this morning and my quads damn near caught fire when I bent my knees. First thing out of my mouth for some reason was “That’s the pepper!”. Damn kof2k2…what’s with the super-delayed burn?
How has Gakic been working for you? I’ve read mixed results but more positive than negative, besides its a Muscletech product, strength gains are supposed to be top notch w/ Gakic.
I’m pretty sure I’ve been deadlifting properly, but forsome reason when I lie down flat on a hard surface after one set, my lower back KILLS. It becomes too painful to lie down and have to ‘arch’ my back up for about 3-5 minutes before the pain goes away. Doesn’t happen when I sit or stand. Doesn’t happen when I do atg squats or anything. It feels like my lower back is being stressed wayyy too much, though when I deadlift I put more power towards my legs on the heels. Is this normal or do I have some fucked up back?
You can’t always blame pain/injury on poor form. You could have tight hamstrings and relatively weak core musculature, I don’t know.
- Don’t do anything that hurts or causes pain.
- Go to the doctor if pain persists…and I mean a good ortho, not a chiro. (nothing against chiro’s)
- Try light stretching and foam rolling prior to workouts to improve tissue density and blood circulation, it did WONDERS for my back.
Agreed. I don’t even do 20 rep sets with my women. That’s a good way to lose a lot of strength and muscle IMO.
He did say “when lifting hard.” 4 days a week of heavy lifting can be REALLY neurologically taxxing. But if you utilize a balanced program and unload regularly then I don’t think 4 days of lifting is out of the question. I really like upper/lower splits like you mentioned and they are very popular.
I agree about the squatting and deadlifting. Grip strength is important, especially if it’s holding you back. I, for one, don’t use straps EVER anymore…so I find I don’t need any additional grip work. I do have to use a mixed grip when I deadlift really heavy though…
I actually read somewhere that a stronger grip somehow equates to a longer life…I swear I didn’t make that up and the source is very credible.
I’m quite interested in doing this. Is it effective to do it at the end of a workout?
Truong, you talk a lot about building strength v. bodybuilding. Can you talk more about this and about a middle path?
I know this question wasn’t directed towards me…but I think he will mostly agree…
Strength training and bodybuilding closely parallel. Typically, if you are building muscle, you will get stronger by default (physics)…one of the ways we force our bodies to adapt further (build muscle) is by putting more weight on the bar (obviously not the ONLY way)
Training EXCLUSIVELY for strength calls for a different kind of adaptation to take place…neurological. Basically, your CNS gets better at recruiting the existing muscle fibers for a particular exercise.
How do you elicit neurological adaptations once ur past beginner’s level? Lift heavy…to put it bluntly…making your goal to perioidically lift more weight than you ever have.
If you want to take the middle road. Lift heavy, but still with sufficient volume to generate at least a moderate amount of fatigue, and eat enough food to support growth.
Might sound crazy but when I attempted a westside style program that I wrote, I put an inch on my arms…and I didn’t really gain any weight…
An inch in what amount of time, like a month?
this is the only exercise that ‘hurts’ after doing it. It’s only there if I wanted to lie down flat on the ground and it lasts for ~5 mins after every set. Pain is only temporary…I’m fine if I just keep standing or sitting or maybe lying down on soft surface (like a bed).
What I don’t get is that I am perfectly fine doing squats with heavy weights. Maybe I am mistaking it for some major soreness? I’ll try the stretching to see if that works though.
I honestly don’t remember…it wasn’t some obscenely short period of time…keep in mind I’ve been training for a while now…I have to work smart and hard for everything I get these days.
Don’t do anything that hurts…what you are describing isn’t normal by any means. Deadlifts place a lot more torque on the spine…the weight isn’t proximal as in a squat. I’m not saying that’s necessarily a “bad” thing, but it’s quite conceivable that deadlifts could cause pain that squats won’t.
Describe the pain and exact location though…I’m just curious…is it para-spinal? Directly on the spine? What region? Thoracic? Lumbar? Cervical? Is it a sharp sensation? Dull? Radiating pain? If it is radiating…does the pain shoot down ur leg or up ur back? Is it a burning sensation?
You should never have to ask yourself if it’s good or bad pain…if u don’t know, then it’s prolly bad…If your workouts yeild some ungodly soreness then I would question ur training practices.