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no hate please:

what are some good free-weight excercises to build-up delts?

a trainer is a like a coach for weighlifting/health fitness/etc…

there are trainers for sports conditioning who dont look like anything special themselves but who know their shit…they develop workouts for athletes for functional strength and other needs…

and mangus is actually a trainer, so ya, in a sense he is a weightlifting/health fitness coach…

how qualified he is? that is a different story…but that is not the point i am making…

im outi

Roberth

How tall is the box? Also, even if you just touch and go, the slight rebound helps out…

How long have you been squatting? I use a box to teach depth and form, but usually try to move away from it as soon as I can…I usually progress an average client in this fashion:

BW BoxSquat (might use medicine balls to help them with balance)-Dumbell box squat-barbell box squat-free squat…

With the barbell box squat I may not even add weight past the starting point…when it becomes easier, just remove the box and watch how much harder it is for them!! Kinda funny sometimes.

I agree with you on that… I had a past trainer where she looks nothing what you’d expect because of her height & size. At first, I had the same thought of where I’d think that my $800 would go to waste. Proved me wrong!

Good luck to everyone out there training hard to get to where they need to get to :tup:

Why are people still taking SRT’s posts seriously? The guy is a genuine fucktard.

The MAJORITY of the people in this world will deadlift more then they squat. The only reason SOME powerlifters have higher squats is because of the usage of suits. It’s not a raw lift, and the range of motion is generally SHIT (barely parallel).

This is a squat suit: [media=youtube]zMUlCZm3WUw[/media]

And this is a suited squat: [media=youtube]o-92-w4ssOw[/media]

Just to let you in on how much suits actually help: the world record RAW bench is barely over 700. The world record SUITED bench press is 1010 pounds. That’s 300 pound increase from wearing a suit.

Look how ridiculous these suits look: [media=youtube]BlDWdfTAx8o[/media]

And the reasons why some powerlifters have higher squat than deadlift? Because there’s no such thing as a suit for deadlifting. The deadlift is considered the purest test of strength because there’s no suit of any kind to help you pull it. At most, you get a belt and knee wraps. Hell, even the world record BENCH is higher than the deadlift (1010 vs 1003).

Again, SRT proves himself to be a gigantic dumb shit, but continues to posts nonsense. Must be a little fruity bodybuilder who got butthurt from a few snide comments I made towards bodybuilding.

If you’re squatting more than you deadlift, you’re not squatting right. Like Magnus said, you’re either cheating with shitty ROM (1/4 squat, barely parallel squat). Ass to grass is the only way to squat, imo.

Mostly everyday use, usually if I’m helping my dad fix things (toilet and putting in hard wood floors for example) or just lifting items in general from one spot to another. I find my lower back, forearms, quads, shoulders, hamstrings, and middle back getting the bulk of the work in any activity. It’s not everyday things, but time-to-time.

I like doing full body for size, but it seems so wasteful when I can’t use it seriously outside of the weight room. My bench can be at an all time high, but I would barely be using my pecs for any real use besides exercises.

What’s the cheapest decent-tasting weight gainer, considering that I live in Toronto?

The box allows me to go slightly below parallel.
I definately dont rebound of it, since I have to momentarily relax all the muscles, and explosively rise.
Definately not a VERY deep squat, which may be the reason it is higher than my deadlift, which you have to sink low…
Box Squats is the West Side way of squatting.
Read this: http://www.elitefts.com/documents/box-squat.htm
It is mostly to improve your regular squat… I alternate between the two.
I will try to squat deeper with lighter weights and when I get used to it, see what I can manage.
It may be because I squat more than I deadlift… but I am relatively new (around 6 months) so maybe that will change…

Truong, those suits are ridiculous.
Any equipment that aids in lifting is useless in my opinion, outside of injury-prevention…

The article reinforces what I said about teaching depth…and it looks like he uses the box for dynamic effort work…working in the 50-60% intensity range for 10-12 doubles…

You will definitely be able to box squat more than you free squat. If you deadlift regularly, at some point, you will probably be pulling more than you squat…

On a side note…I can clean over 200lbs now…I’m kinda stoked about that…as I’m pretty new to power cleans.

Cool… I want to start doing some olympic lifting… but there arent any places that teach the basics, and I am reluctant to learn from videos on the internet…

I had to teach myself. It sux. Especially if you do it right and except no less. I thought I was doing cleans well until I found out I’m supposed to be doing a double knee bend mid lift…Had to teach myself all over again.

Trick is not progressing in weight until ur form is flawless, even if it’s uber light. I felt like I had been doing cleans with 135 forever.

Guys, is it okay to do bi’s and tri’s more than once a week? I mean like this:

Mon: Triceps, chest
Tues: Biceps, back, lats
Fri: Biceps triceps

Oh, and I weighed myself in my skivvies yesterday, and over the last 3 weeks I gained 10lbs. I think the main thing that caused that was I hadn’t been getting enough sleep (5-5 1/2 hours average). Now that my mom started a night job last month, that left me with no distractions at night and I’m able to get around 7 hours of sleep on weeknights.

Rhio: you can… but why would you want to? You’ll get overblown, disproportional, goofy looking arms. Ever see one of those guys on the streets, where they the droopiest looking shoulders, chests so big they look like titties, and two gigantic puffy looking arms? That look is goofy as hell.

And your days are kinda weird too. Why Monday and Tuesday back to back, then take a two day break? Imo, you should do a 3 day split routine, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. It gives your body plenty of rest in between work outs. Monday, do your chest and tris; Wednesday do back and bis; then on Friday you can go all out training them gunz for the ladies.

2x = overtraining, once a week is fine, giveyour CNS/muscles to recover an feedem an grow, yeah sleeping made a big difference for me, the same as you I was only getting around 4-5 hours of sleep, but now I avg at least 7-9 if I can.

Truong, I always figured it wasn’t their arms that made them look droopy, but rather their lack of development in their shoulders (delts).

What I would do w/o an ipod during cardio :looney:

Lol, I didn’t post the whole workout week, just the relevant days.

I tried to teach myself and it didn’t work out so well. And these are the ā€œpowerā€ versions, the one without double knee bends and low catch positions.

Oh yeah, it definitely sucks when you practice in the squat rack, miss your catch, and start crashing all over the rack and making funny sounds. =P

I wouldn’t do it unless your arms are way small compared to the rest of your body. If I did do it, I’d probably train arms everyday as a kind of shock training.
for like 2 weeks out of the year, then resume normal training.

Anyway, I pretty much use WS4SB right now. But I just keep thinking how crappy it is working out legs. It’s like… you’re not really gonna impress any chicks with massive quadriceps and hamstrings. I like lifting heavy weights but you can never show off your legs really. My body @ 180# is naturally bottom heavy, so I have a 1RM 350# DL without that much training but my 3RM bench is only 145# and I can only do 2-3 chinups at a time. Sucks.

Everyone laughs at the guy at the gym with a huge upperbody and chicken legs, but man. That guy with huge legs but skinny on top is definitely dumb-looking also. That’s me… I think.

Hmm, nutrition question: I was looking at some popcorn at the super market, and on the back it said that palm oils added a trivial amount of trans fat. I was wondering that whether this trans fat was neither beneficial or harmful (like those found in meat and dairy products) or purely harmful (like hydrogenated oils). Anyone know?

No legs?

why not back to back then rest? i do day1,day2, rest, day3, day4, rest,rest…depends how you structure your workouts on those days…

and you are missing legs like magnus said…

im outi

Roberth

I didn’t bother screaming WORK LEGS WORK LEGS cuz it didn’t seem like Rhio cared for it. He wants big gunz, and I’m helping him with them.

Heat: imo, 3 day split routine is better than any routine where it calls for you to lift back to back hard. Again, unless it’s bodybuilding where you’re doing a bunch of isolation exercises, then who cares.