That’s the word man, I’m just passin it along. It’s really not even that uncommon. And the point of the video is to show how “strong” he is…but he also uses a squat suit in one video and goes for a double on a squat…Why does a bodybuilder need a squat suit?? Why is he uses maximal weight?? It’s somethin to think about…
U know the world record deadlift is just over 900 right??
Its real weight, but you have to understand the difference between 10 pounds at that level is exponential not linear. Men in those world class strength levels go up a few pounds a year in their lifts so 800 is a longgggggggggg way from 900 pounds. Secondly while Ronnie has lifts that in general are respected in the community fake plates are the rule, not the exception. If you haven’t heard of the use of fake weights then thats laughable, not the concept of using them. You know those photo shoots you see in flex magazine. 99% of them are shot with fake plates added on for several reasons.
Bodybuilding, and particularly at those levels where muscle mass is gained at the expense of life in general and health is a narcicisstic endeavor. Therefor these guys want you to think they lift much more than they do.
Once the bar has been set, IE a shoot with XXXXXX incline benching 405 for reps, no one wants to look like a pussy and be shot lifting 315.
All these pictures are taken of lifters who are approaching contest condition, a window of 5 weeks pre and maybe 3 weeks post contest so they look like what we associate bodybuilders looking like. Henceforth their strength levels are down a good deal from what they are in postseason form.
Everyone knows there fake and its not even a tightly kept secret.
Wanna see what happens when guys go balls out lifting for a photo shoot? See if you can find the shots of Jean Pierre Fux where he was squatting 600+ and snapped his leg in half, ending his career while shooting for Flex. Lesson learned.
And finally why does Ronnie use maximal weight? The answer is that it has built him a 8 time Olympia winning physique, so who can question it? For him HEAVY resistance training works, this man has the best back in the history of bodybuilding remember. And he is old school, he goes to war with the weights. Its not suprising he rips off near maxes for videos, thats what the people pay to see. Would anyone pay to see him do 3 sets of 12 squats with 500 lbs? Probably not.
3 sets of 12 squats with 500lbs is outrageous, i dont see why anyone wouldnt be impressed by that…
but i dont understand wtf you guys are talking about, fake weights…i have seen in real life…in my fucking gym…some dude that was obviously competition material prolly 190lbs 4% bodyfat, do 10 reps for incline…INCLINE dumbbell flies using 100lbs, moving it like it was fucking paper, like fool didnt even break a sweat, or breath hard or anything, like a fucking warm up to a warm up set… maximum control…and unless he brought some fake ass weights in his bag and snuck them on the rack, then that shit was legit…and this fool wasnt even close to being ronnies size…
and like columbo, would fucking rep 800lb deadlifts…but maybe they had fake weights back in the day too…
i mean i guess they can use fake weights but i have seen with my own eyes that it is not even close to necessary to use fake plates, even for “safety” purposes…
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They don’t train with fake weights…just use them for videos and photo shoots as chaos said.
eh, I would still consider it linear as 10lbs is 10lbs and an X% increase in strength will net them X more lbs., although I do understand the notion that gains in strength are harder to come by later. But I said the world record is just over 900lbs. I think 937 now? So 800lbs still puts him even or better with pro powerlifters, as a bodybuilder…so it’s still ridiculous. he did it twice and made it look easy, come on
You “sorta” missed my point on the coleman video. He uses a squat suit (why would a bodybuilder need one?) and does a 2 rep set…How often do bodybuilders do 2 rep sets?? And that was prolly a 3 rep max…that’s just too heavy for a bodybuilder to be lifting, it’s silly. There is no way I believe that he trains like that normally. He does higher reps, tons of isolation bullshit and injects HGH and Test, while eating a whole chicken between every set…that’s how he built his physique. You and I BOTH know that his training is probably SERIOUSLY lacking scientifically. Please don’t put bodybuilders on a pedestal. They were born genetic freaks and further it with more drugs than any of us put together could afford.
THAT is my point!! lol. He put on the squat suit and used his 3RM just for show right?? Why not fake weights to further it?? Although with the leverage he’s got with that size and a suit (had he learned how to use it) The squat isn’t toooo outlandish.
I hate bodybuilding now. I’ve met too many guys that don’t know shit that will ALWAYS be bigger than me lol. But I will be stronger one day…it’s sorta my new goal…when I change splits I’m changing biometers and loading parameters. Very excited. It’s going to be a bitch writing the workout though lol…
ohhh i thought you guys meant that they cant really push that weight and they just use fake weights to make it look like they can lol…didnt know you were just saying in the video…
oh i actually linked the wrong video, i meant to link this on…lol…[media=youtube]YaBVZQUX4-w[/media]
sick stuff…
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Got 1st place in the mens open middle weight class and ended up with second for the overall. There were 10 guys in my class. Made weight at exactly 176 lbs which is the top end of middle weight (154lbs - 176lbs) Let me know what you guys think I need to improve on for my next BIGGER show in 2 weeks!!!
Ohh yea, I’m the only asian guy at the comp in case you guys dont know…LOL
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Congrats! Your holding some water there but I assume you were really shooting for the 2 week out contest so you thats the cause. Your a little smooth but no more so than the other guys look. Triceps are getting dominated by bi’s in the arms, also in the front double you could try and spread the lats a little more to emphasize your width, which was well ahead of the competition. Don’t like the foot placement on teh back double. Calves really helped you here as the other competitors have none. Would like to see ab/thigh and side chest. I like the package and think if you come in at 170-172ish in two weeks by dropping that subcutaneous water you’ll look great.
Wow, you look way better than all of them. There was one guy, standing next to you in the first pic…he looked like shit…like no muscle at all and still kinda smooth.
I will say that ur torso looks big for ur legs. The one guy with the curly hair and the tattoes had a nice set of wheels, he looked like ur biggest competition.
I meant that he is 40 years old and has been juicing and lifting heavy for 20 years, so 10 pounds is an enormous increase for him, much less 100. The exponential versus linear arguement is basically about the increases once you reach potential threshholds versus when your working up to them not literally. Also there are 1200 lb squats out there suited in fact there is a 1005 squat at 198 lbs. I think out there. So 800 for two isn’t shocking. Well it is but not relatively considering he probably weighs 310 in that video.
As far as his training goes Ronnie started out powerlifting and he still does relatively low rep sets (5 reppers) reputedly pretty commonly. He certainly does not suit up and go for doubles on a regular basis though, he is 40 and a muscle tear ends his career. In fact it did at the Olympia he lost, he has torn a lat and it kills his back. As far as how he trains I don’t know how accurately a video represents his training schedule. Certainly the splits he uses aren’t what is generally considered optimal on a scientific basis.
HOWEVER what you have to consider is that optimal strength training, even optimal powerbuilding lifting is not = to the best split for a heavily using competitor. Basically look at it this way I know that Ronnie hits body parts twice weekly in his routine, but saying that how he does it isn’t the best way is hard to tell due to his extreme levels of genes, drugs and experience.
Finally you have to avoid that trap you talk about in your last paragraph or it will drive you nuts in the gym. You can’t compare yourselves to others in terms of mass or strength or your always gonna be unhappy with the results unless your one of the 10,00,000 to 1 cats. I say all this to say you gotta put the emphasis on motivation from within, not without. Try to be more than you are now, constantly improving and setting ne boundaries! Otherwise there is always someone who is bigger and stronger, and chances are they know less about lifting that you they just have gifts. And the annoyance doubles if you know them and they condescende your knowledge as bullshit because they are bigger.
I was talking about his 800lb deadlift…oops…the squat, especially suited, isn’t THAT outlandish as I said…but an 800lb deadlift for a bodybuilder is way up there.
I see what you’re saying, but I am much better suited to get strong and bodybuilding is really just not my thing anymore. I would rather do a PL meet now, but I have a long way to go in that respect too…and I need to lose a few pounds.
Weight class makes a big difference in that respect. If your not comfortable in a combined meet start by doing a deadlift only meet to get your feet wet maybe. That would be your best lift and a chance to see how you like it.
Nice job man, most of those dudes look small compared to you, one dude doesn’t even look like he has lats.
lol at the 4th pic, everyone’s flexing hard and you’re the only one smiling.
Heavy on the cardio I assume?
Anyone know?
Before: 167 lbs. w/ 16% body fat
Now: 162 w/ 10.5% bodyfat
Duration: 5 weeks
Sup y’all? This is specifically towards MAGNUS, but others are welcome to read. How you been? I’ve been following your routine for about 5 weeks now, i’m just starting the 6th week. I’ve lost about 10 lbs. of fat and gained about 5 lbs of muscle. 
Been eating most of my carbs in morning and after a work out, taking creatine, just ran out of whey 
but i think i’ll be fine w/o whey considering i’m eating a decent amount of protein. Either way, questions are as follows:
Difference between the Squat you posted on Day 1, and front/hack squat on day 3?
How do you DB rows?
Critique: That’s it mostly. I’ve been changing my rep tempo every week as follows, (repsxsets) 8x3, 12x4, 5x5. It’s been 5 weeks since i’ve been doing this, should i stick with it or change it up soon to linear? I thought it’d be best to start off this way 'cause then I stimulate each of the different type of muscle fibers. Any other additions to the work out you gave me?
I’ve just started doing weighted ab work outs with weighted hanging leg raise, and medicine ball crunches on a stability ball.
I’ve been doing a little bit of cardio in between the 3 day full body work out, but i’m going to add 3x a week of interval training.
WOW, that’s awesome!!! That is some bad ass progress!!! fucking HELL YA!! I wrote that motha fuckin workout!! FUCKING A!! You better tell EVERYBODY about me!! LOL.
Really and truly, it would be better if you could ask someone at the gym to show you those two exercises…but let’s see
http://exrx.net/WeightExercises/BackGeneral/DBBentOverRow.html
Dumbell rows right there…and
http://exrx.net/WeightExercises/Quadriceps/BBFrontSquat.html
front squats. That’s bodybuilder style…with the arms crossed over the bar.
http://exrx.net/WeightExercises/OlympicLifts/FrontSquat.html
This is the clean grip front squat. I find this superior for keeping the weight on the delts and keeping the body upright, but it’s very difficult and akward at first. There’s probably no one at ur gym that does them like this lol. I have never seen anyone do it…I had to teach myself.
Hack squats are on a machine. You either have one at ur gym or you don’t…I prefer front squats as I think they are just better cuz they are free weights and they do much more for stability and core strength.
Honestly, I’ve been using the same kinda periodization for months now, there isn’t a REAL reason to change from an undulating model like that unless progress REALLY stalls. If and when that happens you can make subtle changes and crank it out.
Thanks to your sick work out, and my knowledge of nutrition i’ve made some SICK progress. Me and you should get into work together MAGNUS, you make the work outs, I make the diets and we sell it to SRK fat noobs for profit :looney: 
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Shu, majority of your BF% went down from doing cardio or eating clean plus the program?
The latter, cardio I did once in a while. I’m assuming you want to lose BF, what are your stats? What are you doing currently? :annoy:
I mean, damn, you are so lucky. If I knew about working out and nutrition when I first started I could’ve made sick gains too. I had NO direction really though, and progress was slow even for a noob for me…:sad:
There is no reason you can’t start adding some calories in and get up over 170 or 180@10%BF or less by the summer IMO.
How tall are you?
You don’t have before/after pics do you? Even if it isn’t DRASTIC, for 5-6 weeks, if it was really noticeable that would be so cool to see.
My goal is to see abs by Nov. 19th (b-day.) I still don’t see abs :sad: I’m starting to see them but not clear yet. Adding interval into the equation to hopefully see abs, but i’m afraid i might lose muscle :’( So i’m going to beef up my protein more. After I attain abs I plan on doing clean bulking using that article you posted by CT. BTW, his new “rant” article is pretty sweet-check it out. According to that article if you’re training for aesthetic purposes (which I am) you should use isolation exercises, HOWEVER I think I need to add some mass overall before I can focus on improving parts lol.
I’m 6 1 :wgrin: So i’m still pretty skinny.
Before:
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You can see the lower abs forming, It doesn’t seem like much of a change but I can definetly notice the differences.