-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

That’s your business. Until then, stay on topic.

Um…what DON’T I know about?? You’ve yet to say ANYTHING that shows that I DON’T know what I’m talking about…because you CAN’T. Go ahead and TRY you fucking moron. TRY ME.

ummm it is f it is in the form of powder, if you drink protein shakes that you get from GNC or whatever, that is a supplement…

vitamin C, it is a vitamin that you get from eating, but if you are taking pills it is a supplement…

i think creatine is found in milk also, but in very small amounts…

im outi

Roberth

Oh what the hell. :confused:

Might as well cut the skim milk out if it doesn’t even digest all the protein. I think I’ll switch to 1% and sometimes whole milk.

Well, didn’t you change the topic to “lying your ass off and not providing proof”? I thought I was on topic.

To Heat, I drink these protein drinks in a can. That’s all I do. I wasn’t trying to mislead you.

I drink skim and only skim, and I do just fine. I say do what works for you. :slight_smile: I’ve said time and time again, I don’t know everything, and I only do what I think is right. Everyone’s got opinions, of course.

ya, i know of those, i used to get these protein/energy drinks from one of my former gyms that tasted like chalk, it was weird, and although it tasted like chalk, i kind of enjoyed it HAHAHA…

i was watching food network one day and there was this healthnut/athlete dude who created a company based on health icecream bars…he used to run a lot and when he got home he would experiment with protein shakes a lot so he decided to start a business i guess…

i thought this was cool cause i wouldnt mind have one of “protein shake, icecream bars”…he basically just makes shakes and freezes them in a shape of a bar, but i guess there are some secrets that he does not give away on how he makes them… i think he also has ones with different supplements too like glutamine, which is cool…and it seems to be fairly successful…

but that is pimp, just thought i would let yall know, cause i thought it was cool…

im outi

Roberth

ps…where is the homie romie, havent seen that dude post up here in a while…

what up Deric? You starting to pick up the weights?

weight-lifting question:

does a person normally life equivalent total weight when lifting say…flat dumbbell bench compared to flat barbell bench?

or is one more than the other?

you should barbell bench more than dumbbell.

Yeah, it won’t hurt me to take in the fat from milk so it’s all good.

This needs to be said.

Protein shakes of any sort, do not and should not replace real food. I read about people all the time drinking in excess of 3 shakes a day. The vast majority of shakes on the market today in no way resemble real food. Most have little to no carbs or fat and don’t begin to give you what your body needs. I drink them ONLY after I workout. That’s it…I eat real food througout the day and am seeing the best gains of my life.

MRP’s are a different story, but I need more calories than they provide, so I stick to real meals, real huge ones.

About bench pressing…it’s a matter of preference…but if you want to be able to Bench press a bunch of weight, you will have to bench press. The gains in strength you see from dumbell pressing will carry over minimally at best.

When you guys are comparing one type of bench press to another, you’re talking bells versus bar right?

yep.

Is there a difference in terms of muscle growth?

I honestly don’t know for sure…I haven’t seen any studies done on the matter…But IMO other factors are more important…like caloric intake and resting intervals etc.

For those of you on bodypart splits you can easily use both. Besides…it’s not really good for the shoulders to barbell press for every articulation.

I’m going to go ahead and say yes. If you hit the muscle differently, you will get different results. Keep doing the same thing over and over, and the body adapts. Give your body a different look, such as dumb bells, and you may get something out of it. Isolation differences, the way you move them. Whatever, but it’s a slight change to your body, and I always recommend switching up how you work out. Keeps it fresh, and your body will have to react accordingly.

Can anybody recommend a protein shake with a low percentage of cholesterol? I know my friend and I have high blood pressure. Its so hard to find, w/o actually going out and buying it.

haha i guess by SRK’s standards i’ve been “lurking” this weight-lifting nutrition thread?

anyways, lately i have finally been trying to even myself out. like a true gym-newbie i’ve been exclusively focusing on upper body workouts since i started working out. i never had a problem with it before since i figured legs were for running and i’d only work them out that way. wrong. as of lately when i look at myself in the mirror i see myself as a unproportional laughable triangle-man. hey admit it, 80% of the guys in a regular gym or college gym are like this :rolleyes: i finally got off my ass and started to do something about it and incorporated a broad range of leg and lowerback exercises

i’ve read quite a bit how people say that ‘deadlifts’ are a great full-body workout exercise. yes, i would say i agree. i more-or-less learned deadlift form from watching personal trainers at the gym teach 50 year old guys. what i concluded from watching a few trainers (never actually having my own personal trainer) is that keep you back straight to minimize possibility of injury to the lower spine. as a result i’ve been making a conscious effort to have good form.

i’ve heard alot of things said about deadlifts here (400lb deadlifts?) and i was bored one day and went over to Youtube to see if they had anything on deadlifts. apparently they have videos on anything and everything, including a few instructional videos. then came the shocker: “…focus on lifting with your legs, and not your back…” [media=youtube]nQuvFY_6p6M"[/media]

is this true? is the first part of the deadlift of getting the bar up to your quads done exclusively with your legs? (pushing with your legs like a partial squat motion) and then the final part of the deadlift is to pull the bar back, tighten your back, and hyper-extend your back a little beyond vertical? if so, i have been doing it improperly and have been primarily lifting with my back (although straight) for the whole motion

any advice would help. i want to get the technique for deadlifts down so i can get the full benefit from the exercise without screwing up my back. also it’d be great to be among the 15% of people in my gyms that even do deadlifts :lol:

Changing exercises or articulations will indeed be a nice change of pace. But if you think about it…all of us are squatting, deadlifting, pushing and pulling. While there are different articulations, they are all still natural human movements…and the body will adapt much faster to levels of intensity used…(rep ranges/weight) And this is why periodization is so FUCKING good. Keeps things fresh, keeps the body guessing, reduces the chance of accumulative fatigue and CNS/muscular overtraining…all while keeping the same exercises for the same period of time…meaning you go into the gym each day with a plan of attack or strategy if you will. Imagine for a moment how much more effective that will be over say…walking into the gym one monday and saying …“hmm, I’m going to do decline press first today and flat press with dumbells!”

I’m not looking at nutritional value labels at this very moment…but I think MOST protein shakes are going to be low in cholesterol…have you looked around and not found what you are looking for?? Go to a nutrition center near you…while the employees may not know dick about training, they should know the products or at least help you find what you are looking for.

Deadlifts do work a wide range of muscles…but the primary movers are the legs…or the huge posterior chain to be more specific…which consists of the erectors, gluteals, and hamstrings. Deadlifts will rock your back too though…Here’s my breakdown of the exercise.

  1. Stand with your feet shoulder width or just outside shoulder width apart
  2. Grip the bar just outside your knees.
  3. Set your hips low. (might be hard at first, but once you are trained…this will give you more leverage)
  4. Maintain a neutral spine throughout the lift. (this is with just about EVERY exercise though, not just deadlifts…i.e. squats, romanian deads, bent rows etc.)
  5. ok, this is just how I do it…sounds kinda tricky…but I don’t focus on lifting with my legs…because when I do this my back doesn’t move and my hips come up too fast…then I end up stiff leggin it for the rest of the lift. So what I do is begin with lift with my legs…then I proceed to push my hips forward to finish the lift. This helps me to complete the lift in one fluid motion.
  6. When locking out…don’t hyperextend too much…your looking for a full contraction in the glutes and retraction of the shoulder blades

And remember to let the weight die on the ground between reps…use this time to quickly reset your grip and set your hips correctly. This is time to RESET not REST. Don’t find yourself taking two or three breaths between reps…inhale, pull, exhale.

I don’t think I left anything out…but I may have, whatever…if you have anymore questions don’t hesitate to ask. You are doing right by deadlifting…legs are all about squatting, deadlifting, and lunging…and variations of those exercises.