-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized

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So when should I do my cardio?

I like to do cardio 1st thing in the morning before breakfast, or after your last meal at night!
20~30 min should do the trick.

Ha ha, a long post that’s worth nothing to me as I know MORE than you. You need to relax, kid. I’m probably old enough to be your father. And yes, you ARE saying the same stuff over and over again 'cause you’ve ran out of nonsense to type/post. Let me tell you AGAIN: Muscle milk is different than a protein shake. Muscle milk DOES have “PROTEIN” in it, but it’s called muscle milk for a REASON. Muscle milk has more CALORIES and GRAMS of fat than regular protein shakes for a REASON…to help gain MASS and MUSCLE. Going by your post, you’re not as strong as you sound.

Not to sound gay, but… pics? This is what I mean about taking advice from someone that, perhaps, shouldn’t give it. The one true constant with working out is everyone is different. Maybe it worked well for you. Perhaps you missed just why it worked? Not sure.

You’re on a different subject.

Magnus, the home-made shakes that you make, what kind of money does that come out to at the end of the month?

Jorant, do you make home-made stuff like Magnus?

Someone else mentioned it: Muscle Milk costs a pretty decent penny.

I never read the carton/bottle, but I’m guessing you chug one of those things every time you finish a workout right?

if youre gaining weight on muscle milk then great but its simply not a weight gainer. the reason it has fat is because muscle milk claims to have the right amount of fat in the drink so you get the fat that you need… and when you get the appropriate amount of fat then your body will feel that the supply is abundant and have little tendency to store it

and this exclusive ingredient designed to build MUSCLE and even REPAIR them (wow) is … surprise amino acids… the building blocks of protein if you dont get an adequate supply of protein your body will tear down muscles and use that protein to repair them. products with more essential and bcaas are better since your body cannot synthesize these.

sure the added calories are great for gianing weight but almost any protein shake after 8 or 16 0z of whole milk will have the same calories fat and carbs as muscle milk and will be cheaper. with that said i do like muscle milk its convenient and it tastes really good ( but only when im on the go)

if youre going for weight gain why not just go all out with a 600 + cal shake that has 50 grams of protein and like 50 carbs ( which jorant said are imperative for protein delivery)

bottom line muscle milk is nothing special there are products worse and products better … also i feel eating a lot of the right foods is the best weight gainer available

edit : also i never gave props for juice monkey being huge!!! jorant being fucking ripped!!! and magnus whoopin ass in the ring!!!

Ok dude, it’s not like I actually do this for a living or anything. And It’s not like I didn’t just chug a ton of muscle milk yesterday…I can grab the carton if you like?? Post up the nutritional info for everyone maybe?? To show everyone you are a dipshit and I still own this fucking thread? Yeah lemme do that right now…

Muscle Milk

Calories: 350 (wow that’s alot!! NOT REALLY ASSHOLE, my shakes have 9 fucking hundred so STFU)

Fat: 17g of which 7g are saturated. Did you know that fat has the same molecular structure as bodyfat, giving it the tendency to be stored?? And in this shake you are getting as many calories from fat as you are from protein…if not MORE

Carbs: 17g, 2g fiber, 7g sugar. What a wonderful weight gainer, I guess all weight gainers shouldn’t have enough High GI carbs for a nice insulin spike PWO, BUT WHO NEEDS THAT?!?

Protein 34g of which I’M SURE you didn’t know was a blend of casein and whey concentrate. Did you know casein is a slow digesting protein that isn’t best PWO?

Did you even FUCKING know that protein shakes are good PWO?? Do you even know what the FUCK I mean when I say PWO?!?

You are such a dumb fuck. THERE IS A PICTURE ON THIS THREAD OF ME DEADLIFTING OVER 400LBS. And that was when I was 15lbs lighter and that was NOT even a max attempt. Get the fuck on dude, go give your bullshit advice to the kiddies at school…you are fucking done.

^magnus he is doing this to anger you. don’t you remeber this guy from gd? leave it alone.

i’ve working on my fei long/bruce lee arm.

Hey man, I wasn’t trying to insinuate that in the slightest bit. And a 300+ bench @180 is REALLY solid. But if somebody looks better than me…I’m gonna play the strength card EVERYTIME heh. Which in reality doesn’t mean much, because you simply are going to have a much harder time putting up those numbers at such a low BF % (props again)

Oh and thx again for pointing out the fact that you don’t have to do crunches x foeva to have abs.

Actually, you were “done” before you even THOUGHT of typing nonsense. You STILL don’t know what you’re typing/posting about. Kids like you never learn. And you think that I care that you have a picture of yourself deadlifting over 400lbs.? If you’re trying to say that you’re stronger than me, then you would be dead wrong. My 1RMs(I BET you don’t know what this stands for) are:

Bench press: 455lbs.(raw)
Deadlift: 515lbs.(belt)
Squat: 780lbs.(belt)

I’m 6ft. and 225lbs. My weight will be back up in the winter and I’ll be between 240-245lbs. What are YOUR stats, young man?

What the fuck ever dude, I’m calling bullshit, show me something I can see, I have visible proof of what I did months ago, and I don’t even train for strength. If those lifts are 4 real then you need to go to the olympics cuz if you squat close to 800 with nothing but a belt then you are world class…

And you still can’t tell me WHY I’m wrong, because you don’t understand/comprehend BASIC nutrition!! All you say is I’m wrong and you’re right when I’ve already posted numerous times the reasoning behind my logic.

lol youre a fucking weakling dude check out these stats …ohhh yeah

bench press:455.75 those are pounds dude!!! (fucking raw baby)
deadlift: 515.99 (without a freaking sissy belt believe that slick)
squat: 780.5 ( with a belt but its a small one so it doesnt count)

dude if i was putting up your numbers i would quit life… sad really

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Not to say those number aren’t possible, 'cause they are… but you’re a liar until I see pics. Anyone touting Muscle Milk pushing those numbers… it just doesn’t compute.

LOL I don’t take pictures of myself at my gym. Now tell me why you call “bullshit”? Is it because YOU can’t achieve those numbers? It’s up to you if you want to believe my lifts or not, it really doesn’t matter to me, you’re just a kid. And I made a typo on my squat. I meant to type that I have/use my squat suit and use my belt. I don’t do ATG(I KNOW you don’t know what this means) squats, so WHY would I have to be in the “olympics” when I don’t TRAIN to be an “olympic” lifter? Once again, you’re done. Better yet, you’re OVERLY done.

And I SHOWED you why you were wrong twice, learn to pay attention, I’m not retyping the same stuff. Now, get to bed, you gotta get up for school tomorrow, young man.

this flamewar is worthless without pics

i’ve been trying to lower my bf% so i’ve been exercising in the mornings and evenings…but i came upon some stumbling blocks. whenever i run on an empty stomach, i can only go for say, 1-2 miles before my body craps out due to hunger. should i eat before i run? or would that defeat the whole purpose about attacking the fat reserves in the morning?

i have a similar problem at night. when should i eat? after i get home from work (~11 pm or so) and haven’t eaten for a few hours, i still have enough energy to do 2-3 miles, even on an “empty” stomach…but i remember reading somewhere on this thread where they say to do it after i eat. which one should i do to maximize results?

and also, should i eat before i sleep? i’ve heard that supposedly that makes the body stay out of “survival” mode, but other sources say not to eat 3 hours before sleeping. which is the correct method?

wow havent checked up in here in awhile, the fire runs deep.

2nd to God was the user who got banned before I think he used to call himself Above Existence or something like that, so yea thats why his like that I guess.

and I second flame war without pictures is worthless.