My Gustaff Rider team (Ghost Rider, Tron, Doom) seems to be working well for me.
Its possible to DHC Hellfire Maelstrom into Tron’s Servbot Takeout just that the timing and distance needs to be taken into account, its not safe if its miss but considering that Maelstrom pushes your opponent away if it hits there isn’t too much worry about getting punished.
Gustaff Fire assist helps me extend Heartless Spire into Hell’s Embrace which then I would follow that up with Spirit of Vengeance.
A team i was running was GR (spire)/Nova (pulse)/and Skrull (grudge or Tenderizer) if i change one for Hawkeye, which should i swap and what assist for hawkeye?
I’ve been experimenting with GR (chain rebutt)/Wesker (gunshot?)/ and Sent (drones) and it’s been pretty beast. All the hypers have ways to go into each others and they all got decent health and dmg.
I think Storm or IM might be good fillers for the center. Storm would probably be the best second. Wesker just seems too boss these days though especially after max wesker dhc from mealstrom. And rebutt is for wesker wall bounce cross up shinanigans as well as sent drones.
I’m surprised he’s not listed here but Taskmaster and Ghost Rider have absolutely amazing synergy. You can easily follow the Battery (GR), Meter User (Task), Assist (Strider, Doom, Frank, etc)/Anchor (Phoenix, Spencer, Wesker, etc…) and have an amazing team. I’m really loving GR and Task right now (mainly in that order) followed by a good assist/good anchor.
Ghost riders SOV H DHC into Magnus shock wave give me the full hits off the hyper.
Not to mention Magnus attraction into Heartless spire or chain of rebuttal is lol, and disruptor is a nice beam.
Glad to hear someone else is giving this a try. I’m really enjoying Ghost Rider as a battery, and L3 XF Round Harvest Spam Trish is far and away my favourite anchor.
Right now I’m trying Chun-Li on deck for additional battery power and Hyakuretsu assist to keep pressure off Ghost Rider, but it doesn’t seem like Ultimate’s improvements have helped her that much… I don’t think I’m skilled enough to do her justice.
Let me know how your experiments go.
Since I played a ton of Dante in vanilla, I’ve opted to switch back to him. After going through a gauntlet of characters to fill my Ghost Rider / X / Sentinel team, I feel like Dante has come out a bit on top of the others personally. He might not be as perfect as say, Dormammu, but I still think Jam Session functions as a very much needed full-screen vertical anti-air to help out GR’s zoning game. At first I wasn’t sold, but I think it’s quickly becoming a very comfortable tool to play with. I don’t think I’d ever drop Sentinel, as his drones do way too much good for me.
I’m going to list below all of the characters that I’ve tried over the weekend and found successful. This list of characters have high-damage, full-screen DHC options that can connect off of a Hellfire Maelstrom. This generally means that 2 meters spent in a combo will break 800K easily, and in the case of a few of these characters, over 900K. In addition, they all provide some sort of beneficial assist that either extends combos or provides coverage for GR’s normals. The criteria for a character to fit well in this shell is that they must meet at least** two** of these three things: provide GR with a zoning assist; extend combos; have a full-screen, high-damage DHC.
Teammates that fit well into the Ghost Rider / X / Sentinel shell (imo):
Dormammu (Dark Hole)*
Dante (Jam Session)*
Amaterasu (Cold Star)
Spencer (Slant Shot)
Storm (Whirlwind)
Wesker (Samurai Edge)
Phoenix (TK Shot)
*Of this list, I feel that Dormammu and Dante are the two best. Why? Because both of their assists can be used to extend combos and/or used to help GR’s zoning. They effectively meet 3 for 3 of the criteria for a great GR assist. Dormammu’s advantage is that he provides a much higher DHC damage option, but his assist is less effective as a zoning tool and cannot be used to extend combos in the corner. Dante’s Jam Session provides great vertical coverage for super jumps and is very easy to combo off of, mid-screen OR corner. However, Dante’s full combo is only about 830K-880K~, whereas Dormammu’s DHC always leads to 900K+. Take more damage or take a more useful assist? The second point of interest is which character benefits more from Sentinel and GR’s assists. That, without a doubt, goes to Dormammu. Also, both characters’ supers can be DHC’d into Hyper Sentinel Force, leading to pretty much TOD on most characters with 3 meters.
Ammy, Spencer, and Storm are all great, but they don’t provide more than two categories at a time. Ammy technically does, but her super is weaker in comparison to the others and cannot be DHC’d into Hyper Sentinel Force. Spencer is great for extending combos and provides a high-damage DHC, but lacks in helping GR’s zoning gameplan. Storm has the ultimate DHC, but a mediocre assist. I’ve tried to make her assists work, both as a zoning tool and to extend combos, but they fall short in both categories. In all honesty though, I feel like ANY of the listed characters can be a great second character, it just depends who you’re most comfortable with.
A few posts above someone posted that Wesker is an okay fit. I would love to use Wesker, so maybe I’m overthinking the DHC damage, cause Wesker will help GR open opponents up with Samurai Edge. He can’t extend long combos, but the fact that you’ll be hitting your opponents more might make up for it. It’s also weird that you have two batteries and no real meter spender, so I guess that just means you have a team that can be liberal with supers (or go for Penance Stare a lot haha). Phoenix is another option people have been running. Not a bad idea either, and she helps extend combos with TK Shot.
Another team I’ve been looking at is GR/Sent/Doom for a heavy, heavy zoning team. I’ll hit up that training mode tomorrow.
I’m thinking Ghost Rider/Vergil/ ???
I’m thinking that Doom would be really good, but i’m trying to find alternatives to him seeing as i don’t really like him as a character. Somebody with another beam assist or soemthing similar would be great. Any ideas?
As far as the rest of the team, GR is a great battery that can get meter for Vergil. Vergil’s slashing assist is really good for GR’s keep away. Also, if you ever switch to vergil without gr being dead, you can run GR’s spire assist to extend combos as well as setup left/right teleport mixups.
Edit: I’m thinking Sentinel for the anchor.
Edit2: I’m thinking either this team or Nemesis/Vergil/Sentinel. I might be willing to modify the second team, I don’t know all that much about Nemesis, so i’m not sure how to modify. Suggestions?
Nice post MCR, I love your breakdowns. I myself have been getting really into ghost rider and started making some notes in the lab. I have come to the exact same conclusions you have (down to trying everything to make storms assists work LOL). Good to see someone else as interested as I am to make a boss team.
I said Wesker filler because I am comfortable using him and makes a great anchor even though I use him second i try to get him out if i really dont think my sentinel is capable of a comeback. I used him in vanilla and really its just for derp si.gunshot zoning and to rush in when things go south for GR. Also rebuttal assist is good for mix ups as well as sent drones and yes I am very liberal with meter use. Many times ill maelstrom into Max Wesker just to change my game plan mid match and get shades off. I just been reluctant to give him up because he’s so good by himself but I made the decision to try the team I’m about to mention :
Just yesterday I thought of the team you mentioned gr/sent/doom and want to try it tonight. I like doom in the back for his anchor capabilities and after watching stream last night dios x showed me that doom sent can help each other out with assist really well I think and ghost rider has combo extenders. Also keep in mind you don’t have to use maelstrom for dhc started. The bike is good for geting close and you can use the H I think to have rider do that turn and they slow fall behind him (which is how I would do hsf or lv 3 Wesker hyper) . Gotta mod the combos though but you can also do the bike into doom sphere flame. I dunno though when you mentioned Dante that is brilliant. I find hard fights vs Spencer and it would help so much with that assist. So very much. Time to hit more lab.
What do you think of Ghost, Dorm, Strider?
Fosho. I just realized I left Doom out of that list, but he totally deserves to be there. Basically the team will be a lot like Dios X’s, but you’d be using GR on point backed by two assists. I like Jam Session because I am personally more comfortable with Dante and Doom’s missiles are a bit more difficult to convert off of. And yea, I think I wrote in the combo thread or general thread that you can use Spirit of Vengeance to corner your opponent into a Sphere Flame - it might be worth it to explore that. I’d still prefer Sent/Doom (in that order) because of Doom’s anchor ability, but they’re interchangeable for sure. Both characters benefit greatly from each others’ assists.
I’ll be honest and say that I haven’t really messed with Strider’s Vajra assist yet, but people have been telling me it’s insane. I can definitely see him working because his XF3 is really strong, and I see him being a better comeback character than Sentinel, in most cases. I just don’t know if Vajra is actually good enough to replace Drones or Missiles. Vajra is a great GTFO assist, but both Drones and Missiles can help you create mixup situations between low j:s: and cr:h:.
Yeah I’m at work and just jumped into the boards so I missed info on the combo thread. Yeah I agree with the order of sent/doom and I think I’m about 50/50 on doom vs Dante but IMO they are two best picks. Its preference I guess but I think the Dante one is better for reactionary situations (vs Spencer zip line reach around). But doom missiles comes out regardless of getting hit and always always saves my ass when needed. I’m more comfortable with doom I think personally I’m going to be ending up with the doom version.
I want to see if maelstrom dhc into devil trigger to teleport is possible with how much they fly after the downward wack of maelstrom. Either way I personally think ghost rider is going to be sick good but everyone is up on Vergil, Wesker, Strider or Nova. Not to say I wasnt or am not a victim of the tier mindcrime.
I have been running Ghostrider-a/Shulk-a/Doom-a. Shulk torpedo assist is awesome for really long range unblockables or just great long range mixups. I think plasma beam is more useful for elping Shulk get it, but I may try hidden missiles since I can see why it would be great for GR.
Also my new avatar is awesome.
I posted a little thing on my GR/Sent/Doom team in the videos forum as to put it to use lol. Just some basics to start off, I was up late last night pushing buttons thought I’d try.
Man… I literally went through a lot of people last night… I just can’t decide on a third spot.
I went to bed last night happy with Ghost/IronMan/Sent. Combo extending is hella good. Iron Man beam is good shut down… But I don’t have a “GTFO me” assist. I feel as Ghost Rider I get shut down once they are in.
I’m not really that good with Sent yet, but Im pretty much dedicated to using him this time around. Drones are too good.
edit srk messed up, sorry about massive dupe posts
Wolverine/Ghost Rider is amazing.
Chain of Rebuttal assist is better than Akuma for Wolverine’s crossup.
My current team is Wolverine (Tornado Claw) / Ghost Rider (Chain of Rebuttal) / Firebrand (Demon Missile Swoop). They work really well together with team up supers and can DHC decently.
Yeah I feel you. I used to use IM but while still being my favorite character it’s really hard to use him online and he leans into the technical side of the spectrum and I’ve since given up on stylish and impressive combos in favor of getting the job done. I can go further into detail but thats my two cents on the dude. I’ll still keep him on the bench for funsies or in case he gets real good but I have a team with great synergy I want to makes a winning team.
I’m currently running Frank(shopping cart)/GR(chain)/Nova(rush). Shopping cart is still godlike with GR and Nova, Nova sets up unbockables from mid screen or so, and GR’s portion of THC with Frank should last long enough to snap 2 photos in the whole combo (if I use GR’s assist followup after the first photo).
In a way, I wouldn’t be surprised if Frank and GR eventually become the new BFFs.
I have been doing some testing with the GR/Sent/Doom team and I have to say things are really good. The ONLY thing I’m really not liking is that I’m not the best sentinel and I really don’t like how he’s such a fat target with not so fat HPs, I get happy birthday’d very meanly. The drones are fantastic though and I probably would do much better with practice but I want to see about this GR/Thor (mighty smash)/Doom idea someone inspired me. That and tier talk said Thor has greatly improved since last game and I’m appealing to his giant amount of hit points really and the tri-dash and flight (I like the mobility) and GR can super easily combo from mighty smash assist and so can do but not as easily, if you box dash foot dive slam. If Thor doesn’t work out (which I don’t think it will) I’m considering switching to storm for the gtfo me whirlwind because I think she would do better as a character for me rather than sentinel and I love her punk rock mohawk, as well as the fact that she has flight and tri dashing.
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the Defenders…take your pick. i like ghostrider/hawkeye/ironfist(or hulk). too bad namor or silver surfer aren’t in the game. that would be GODLIKE!
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excellent.
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complete the all white theme with luminous body firebrand tagged out.
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haha garbage team. LOVE IT!:tup:
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gr/nova gots juice. phoenix for complimentary flames.
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troll team. too bad doom’s navy blue & grey alternate is no longer in the game. 
it would be perfect.
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wow. dangerous.:tup: quoggoth…i mean shuma, and she-hulk have surprisingly great synergy. ghost rider’s best team? maybe a better question is if anyone really cares haha poor johnny
