Hawkeye is not good with ghostrider. You CAN’T J.S confirm with Greyhound also terrible durability, hes a good anchor i guess…
And putting GR second, thats uh… thats not good.
You can j.S confirm with Greyhound, at least usually. Worst would be against anyone who Ghost Rider can’t normally hit anyway because they’re too short, and that’s if you hit them crouching. But even then it’s still good for him. You can cr.H confirm with it too. Even then, it’s 9 durability which is more than enough.
Ghost Rider second isn’t bad, it just depends on how you want to get him in. His DHC to Spirit of Vengeance is really good due to hyper armor, and DHCing to it from something like Hawkeye’s Kiss of Fire keeps it safe.
Sorry, i meant you cant instant J.S with Greyhound. No dude, no. You don’t run Ghost Rider second.
Um, yeah you can. Instant j.S doesn’t change how assists would connect. You may need to change the timing of the assist call but that’s perfectly fine. It’s not difficult.
And putting Ghost Rider somewhere off point is fine. It depends on the matchup. The only time to use Ghost Rider is to win a matchup. If he’ll lose to a point character but dominate the rest of the time, then why put him on point? He can work on point too, but in some cases it’s better to have him second.
So Strider, Morrigan, Iron Man, Spencer, and Sentinel aren’t good options? I’d like to hear your reasoning. On that note, what about Hsien, Ammy, Frank, or Haggar? I am playing around with a variety of characters to find a good set up and those four might have potential too.
What about Shuma isn’t optimized? He might actually be one of GR’s best partners, and it’s pretty obvious that you just need to add an anchor that provides a lockdown assist to create a complete team.
How much damage should a GR combo starting from 1 bar with two assists do to be considered good? I want to know where I should be aiming during my lab experiments.
The way I see it, if you’re not playing Ghost Rider with missiles you’re not playing S-Tier Ghost Rider. It’s practically essential to move most of the cast into a corner and to set up a decent high low with your secondary assist, not to mention bolstering chip daamage output. You need missiles, and a full screen assist.
Out of all the horizontal assists the only ones that would be worth using are
-Arthur Daggers (best option, bad character choice. Great with missiles too though.)
-Zero Double Hadangei (best character choice, best damage option, requires power up.)
-Hawkeye Greyhound (great character choice and assist choice, but sometimes whiffs.)
-Vergil Rapid Slash (best overall choice, best DHC option, great missiles user as well.)
-Iron-Man Unibeam (best disabler, worst damage, best TAC option.)
Some alternative options would be Strange Bolts, Dante Weasel Shot, Sentinel Drones, Raccoon Spitfire, Chris Gunfire, Taskmaster Arrows, and maaaybe Shuma Beam and Magneto Disruptor. But without Missiles I don’t know what Ghost Rider’s supposed to do in most matchups. It’s just too important. He’s one of the best assist protectors and the blockstun you get from missiles is perfect for setting a mixup at max range with your other assist.
Without DHC’ing, I’d say around at least 700k starting with st.H. J.S + assist should be around 600. cr.H + assist would be a little lower I think. If you use Missiles it should be easy to get this damage or higher. With Vergil DHC you should kill.
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-Arthur Daggers (best option, bad character choice. Great with missiles too though.)
-Zero Double Hadangei (best character choice, best damage option, requires power up.)
-Hawkeye Greyhound (great character choice and assist choice, but sometimes whiffs.)
-Vergil Rapid Slash (best overall choice, best DHC option, great missiles user as well.)
-Iron-Man Unibeam (best disabler, worst damage, best TAC option.)
-Arthur Daggers (Daggers is so fucking good with GR but unfortunately, you gotta play arthur)
-Zero Double Hadangei (**Zero is good with all the cast thats a fact, but the damage is not good with GR. Since you’ve already used Sougenmu, you cant Light Loop **)
-Hawkeye Greyhound (Good character and assist)
-Vergil Rapid Slash (I agree with everything )
-Iron-Man Unibeam (Good assist and of course you got the infinite but having GR in your team is already a pain in the ass )
I’ve tried most Ghost Rider teams, and while I don’t want to use him competitively anymore, I still think he’s viable.
The best Ghost Rider team hands down is Ghost Rider/Vergil/Dante then Ghost Rider/Vergil/Doom and Ghost Rider/Vergil/Shuma afterwards.
Hellfire/Rapid Slash/Jam Session.
Hellfire OTGs for easier more meter positive Spiral Sword Loops with Vergil. Allows for a small bit of lockdown to apply Round Trip(glitch) pressure. Let’s Dante convert off normal jump height throws.
Rapid Slash gives fullscreen combo extension and easy low scaling pickups off corner throws. Vergil automatically sorts out Blaze’s issue with low damage without to rely often situational assist based combos (having Missiles and another assist free for a combo at the same time). Pushes the opponent to the corner where Blaze works best. Vergil is also the best anchor in the game.
Jam Sessions ramps up the meter gain that Blaze acquires during a combo. Provides decent GTFO me and lockdown utility at the same time. Extends Vergils combos and also allows for throw pickups anywhere onscreen. Decent anchor.
I still love this character and if some you players are actual tournament goers, don’t sell yourself short just because you like ONE mediocre character. Play Johnny with some cheap shit to help him out. He deserves it.
Also, Ghost Rider/Vergil/Dante looks cool as hell.
What are the best GR teams that include Hawkeye, Doom (beam), Magneto, or Iron Man (Unibeam)?
Ghost Rider/Anyone of those characters or Vergil/Doom Missiles
I dislike using Johnny May Cry or Scrub Rider (I apply the “scrub” modifier to any Doom/Vergil team). They are certainly good teams, but too damn generic for my tastes. Now that I’ve examined things a bit more closely, I really want either Hawkeye or Iron Man on my team with Ghost Rider. However, I need an assist to complete the team. Anchor Hawkeye is certainly viable, but I honestly doubt anchor Iron Man being effective, so that leaves my options to one of the following:
-Ghost Rider/X/Hawkeye
-Ghost Rider/Hawkeye/X
-Ghost Rider/Iron Man/X
I really want a good reversal/GTFO assist, but I despise Dante and GR can’t use Tatsu.
EDIT: On that note, what reversal assists does he use effectively? I know Jam and Lariat are favorites, but I’m a bit stumped outside of that. Log Trap costs him a precious wall bounce, and he can’t convert from Chun or Akuma’s assists for shit.
I play Thor/Dormamu/Iron Man so maybe that GR/Dormammu/Iron Man shell could work for you. GR/Iron Man/ Dormammu works also.
DrkD23, have you tried ghost rider/thor/dormammu? I can perform 3 coviction slams in one mid-combo. I’ll post a video later.
No I haven’t I’d appreciate the video whenever you can, thanks a lot.
Soo…
Someone show me 3 Spirits of Vengeance in one team, and i’ll show you 3 Ghost Rider comics you should own.
Why? You will not get THAT much damage and waste 3 meters…
my team is ghost rider(chain)/taskmaster(horizontal)/strider(vajra) let me know what you guys think
Disregard