We need more Guilty Gear players in Seattle

good. :woot:

I wanna offer some guilty gear training. :lol: Pick a character and I’ll give you a rundown of their basic mixup, bread and butter combos, and how to use their normals/blockstrings, and some FRCs too. There’ll hopefully be a new guy at Zach’s next time and his main game is guilty gear so I’ma set that shit up downstairs just try and stop me.

Anyway, all I’m trying to say is if you’re interested in trying to get into the game, don’t be shy! I’d rather spend time incorporating people into guilty gear than playing ST now that remix is at evo anyway. :rofl:

In alphabetical order, characters I don’t recommend trying to pick up

A.B.A.
Bridget
Eddie
I-No
Millia
Venom

and to a lesser extent Johnny, Robo-Ky

I’ll take some Faust info… still not really settled on a character, but I always feel more solid with him than anyone else I’ve tried. I’m definitely up for some games at zach’s anytime you can manage to get it setup… I’ve actually gotten in the habit of bringing the game everytime, but there usually isn’t a PS2 around to play it on;;

I’ll post a couple of Shun hints in the VF5 thread too, cause I know you were asking about him before Preppy’s last time, and I never had a chance to show you anything that night.

don’t pick up eddie!!!..he’s only the best character in the game uncontested (he has at least 5 unblockable setups)…and venom and a.b.a. are pretty strong too…

anyways…i’m just wonderin where the gg scene is at and when you guys meet

Hahah, I’ve been bringing the game just in case a PS2 got busted out too. :tup:

for deep reference here’s the Faust forum on Dustloop, the sticky topics on Faust are good.

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real quick about the notation in case you don’t know, besides numbers it’s P, K, S, HS, D for punch kick slash hardslash and dust respectively, jP is jumping punch, © is for close as characters have a close slash and a (f)ar slash. JC is jump cancel.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=RcolkY1Tuqg here’s a match with good Faust play. I’d just watch it once before you read the mindless banter after :lol:

  • he starts the match jumping forward and baits a low… (just a good guess, kinda risky), anyway the point is Faust’s jD is his main air-to-ground normal (discounting j2k his dive kick) and it causes stagger on counter-hit.

jD, land 5p, 2s, 2d xx 236p (item throw) … the most basic idea of the character is to gatling into a knockdown (2D) into item throw. he gets the donut though, lol.

For okizeme he runs up with 2k (good choice, but blocked) xx 2d which is jump cancel-able, there we see the dive kick - counter! We see the combo again. Unfortunately the donut is still on screen so he can’t cancel the sweep into donut.

He loses pace of the match a little bit, then finishes it with one of Faust’s more damaging combos… his variant was 2d, 2s, 5k (JC), jK (JC), jK, jS, jHS. His sweep (new to accent core:) gatlings into 2s which kinda pulls them in, is jump cancel-able, or that chains to 5k which is also jump cancel-able. You don’t get the knockdown with the looming randomness of an item dropping on them, but you get more damage. It’s a toss up but obviously the better choice at the end of a match.

round two… you’ll see some poking, 5p is a fast normal and he’ll chain it to 2d item throw, then try to poke/attack along with the item… 6p is good anti-air, sometimes you want to cancel it into item throw (236p) but you’ll see him get a counter hit and use the opportunity, then finish the match with shenanigans.

The other noteworthy thing is his pokestring doesn’t combo but it’s good for it’s range, and it worked that time, basically finishing the match for him. 2p is a low hit and it lowers his hitbox (much like 2k which uses that for anti-air), 2hs is a great poke, then he’d cancel it into full screen stabby move, not always recommended. 2hs chains FROM 2p and then INTO 5p. When you’re poking with 2hs, mix up what you cancel it into with 5p because it lowers your recovery compared to a blocked crouching hard slash. You do the same thing with (f)5s by canceling into 2k (shrinks hitbox too).

okay!

Sorry that was so in-depth, don’t know if you’re looking to read a wall of text. Anyway, I have one more video but I won’t be nearly so analytical, I just wanted to give you an idea of how to analyze how the Faust player is thinking, I suppose.

Faust mirror match, then he loses to May: http://youtube.com/watch?v=2CyllMCy5LY

0:17 - baited ‘blockstring’ into his “command grab” (unblockable, not a grab) 214hs
0:37 - pogo move is blocked, so he does the forward smash input which I believe is a dash motion. that move is really good actually, safe on block I believe and repeatable a few times but not too predictably anyway, there’s a slash followup (ground flower), into hard slash followup “going my way” (bread and butter follow up to combos into pogo, which is why I point this out)

That’s all I specifically wanted to point out… Faust’s my favorite GG character (I just love his design :rofl: ) so it’s cool to see interest in him!

Here’s specifically the beginning sticky thread for the Faust forum: http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3417 gives you an idea of what normals to use for anti-airs and what ranges they’re good at, the rest is practice and getting more used to him/the game engine really.

Elias, could you make one for GG, so that I can have it as my avatar on Dustloop? An image of Sol performing Gun Flame or Dragon Install would be very nice. Let me know if you don’t have an image for it.

But… I don’t mind if you want to put Dizzy in there just for me (hehe).

Anyone playing Guilty Gear in Federal Way tonight?

This is the first weekend I have really had to be in Federal Way with nothing to do and if someone is holding a gathering, I would be down to show up. I realize its late, buts its still light out (Thank you Spring) so I am still up for going somewhere.

I have no dustloop account.

Uhh, last night Won, Vince and Christian all came down to PDX to play. Lol, whoops!
I guess you could have hit up Renton, though.

Yea I’m still up for a session. If it’s before Like Friday. I have a lot of family in town this weekend. So I’ll be busy after Friday.

Ah, sorry. I am going to be in Seattle until probably sunday or saturday afternoon.

I tried calling you over the weekend, and I am going to ask Rob too, but how many GG players do you think are going to show for the tournament? I got the idea that there were a few interested who are coming for sure by checking dustloop, but I don’t have any real idea. What would your estimate be?

Honestly?

30-ish. I’m disappointed with what I think it will be too. Cause I want better. But oh well. 30-ish is a safe bet. I think I can name about 25 people who will be there.

We might draw some more locally. A few of the DigiPen GG’ers have been showing up to Redmond casuals regularly now, and I know that they have their own GG club at DP. I need to shove some flyers into their hands to post up at DP because I’m sure they’ll draw in random people for all the games. Random people == free money.

P.S. DP randoms aren’t thieves either; just huge nerd stereotypes.

Edit: Also have to convince them to leave the confines of the 1 mile radius that is their world…

Haven’t played GG since the original XX, and the complexity was intimidating back then. Now, it’s just scary. Other priorities get in the way, so I just don’t have much time to dedicate myself. That, and I don’t have any comp.

If you’re in the area you do have competition. :karate:

Who hosts sessions in Renton? I’m trying to start playing more, hit me up!

Christian hosts Biweeklies on Sunday (This sunday is supposed to be it but I don’t know if he is running it today. Matter of fact we are looking for a Session right now. I haven’t heard much.

IM Me at Divine Sytha or you can give me a phone call. I’ll PM my Phone.

Who’s gonna play Guilty Gear 2: Overture?

I’m really looking forward to getting this when it comes out and learning the game seriously…

Edit: In light of the game coming out, I’ve been downloading the comics and reading up on the game scripts lately, and the story is pretty damned amazing. As far as fighters go, that is. Hard to believe how well it’s held up (and how well it was planned from the beginning, really) through all the reincarnations.

Random. Isn’t it not a fighting game?

Yeah isn’t it like … a 3d castlevania kinda game? lol

Oh. Nvm, then. I had only seen hd-looking guity gear screenshots for a while and not checked out how it was actually turning out in development. Looks like Onimusha meets DMC. Fuck.