We like wearing heels! Poison General Discussion/Q&A Thread

It happens to me as well with super and srk. I don’t have this issue with any other character in the game.

Thank you! Now I don’t feel so scrub

Her srk coming out of nowhere can cost you the round/match.

4Gamer: 5 new characters were added in USF4, how would you rate them?

Bonchan: Among the new characters, the one with the most potential is Poison. Her fireball game (Aeolus Edge) is very strong.

Daigo: Yes. Characters with slow walkspeed, without fireballs, or ways to pass through fireballs will find it extremely difficult to fight Poison.

Itazan: Big body grapplers will land on her HP fireball and eat a juggle combo, so its very troublesome. The hitbox of Poison’s fireball is so large that you might even consider it as an anti-air in some respect.

Momochi: However her uppercut (Kissed by a Goddess) has a very thin hit box and is an unreliable anti-air. She must rely on her ground normals to anti-air and thus is very weak against characters who can change their jump trajectory.

Bonchan: Moreover, Poison’s damage output is not too high. I suppose it’s fair given that her zoning capability is so powerful.

**Daigo: **Perhaps it’s best that all Guile players change over to Poison. The characters basically have the same game plan.

Bonchan: I think of Poison as a powered up version of Rose. In version 1.01, Rose isn’t considered a weak character, but I feel that Poison is stronger.

**Kazunoko: **Is Poison really that strong? I used Yun to play against her and didn’t sense anything spectacular.

This is the bits about Poison in the 4gamer article with the top Japanese player http://www.4gamer.net/games/225/G022539/20140704102/

Ofcourse Kazunoko wouldn’t feel anything special when using Yun vs her.

I agree completely with all statements.

this happens because of that silly buffer that anyone with a DP special motion. Which is why it’s harder to play proper footsies in neutral. (like how Ryu has to do cr.MK>hcf+P to do a fireball so that the input buffer doesn’t read f,df,df.) It’s one of the things they were supposed to “fix” with Ryu at least but it’s still there. (and really annoying.)

I actually have this happen a lot to me (more with Poison than with Shotos.)

I’ll keep an eye out.

@tali‌ The Guile statement is sarcastic i am sure ( I can’t think that someone believe that she is better) , I don’t think that it is possible that Poison is better than Guile. I agree with everything else but that statement.

Good eye I skipped over that statement when I was reading. Nah I wouldn’t recommend guile players to swap but I do love poison vs guile match up :wink:

i dont agree with bonchan about her being better than rose or being similar to rose. they look similar on the surface, but her overhead, her reset game, and having love me tender to go over fireballs makes her play quite differently.

whats funny is they say shes the strongest of the new characters but they put in her as c tier…lol

well she’s the strongest because the others struggle so hard.

and I can see Poison being like Rose. At least pre Ultra Rose. She has all the tools (fireball, normals, footsies, different recovery on all 3 fireballs.) but lacks a good defense. (free on wakeup, easy to OS her reversals on wakeup, relies on normals for AAs, low damage output.) The Guile statement is funny though. Outside of Guile doing a bit more damage in the normal department and actually being able to punish more blocked things due to flash kick, why not play Poison? She does the same thing Guile does.

i meant to say it goes to show how badly designed the new characters are as a whole. its almost as if they’re a non factor in tournament play, and they probably are.

Daigo showing signs of sacrasm? That’d be new ;D

Out of all the people…

Either he knows something we don’t, …well, to be honest, I wouldn’t say one is better than the other. They are simply alternatives. And perhaps in his case, Poison would be the better pick…for his playstyle. So he’s more inclined to say what he did.

Happens to me as well. :frowning:

Yeah, Poison’s hp AE is really powerful against grapplers. Hugo can’t jump over it, and you can trick Hawk players to Condor Dive right into it. If you have U1 ready it’s a fantastic punish.

I wonder if over time our current bad match ups will actually be even. I mean she has all the tools we probably still have to keep exploring.

I hope it doesn’t go the other way around, but only time will tell i guess.

If anything I expect a “patch” or “update” after Evo but before PC release to adjust obvious fuck ups on the 5 new characters. Though most of them will probably be simple fixes. (and I doubt one of those “fixes” would deal with giving Poison an actual DP.)

What if Capcom decides to never fix the 5 new characters and leave them as they are? Are we doomed?

I’ve been hearing that the patch in August will only give us the missing trials.

I actually found something worse about the gouken match up… we can’t pressure him at all on wake up unless its a meaty lmt. If we do it in a block string he can trade tatsu into ultra…

Not only that but you can’t keep up in the fireball war let alone win it. And his Counter breaks all meaty hp AE pressure. We are forced to use lp AE in fireball exchanges and he can ex demon flip freely.