4Gamer: 5 new characters were added in USF4, how would you rate them?
Bonchan: Among the new characters, the one with the most potential is Poison. Her fireball game (Aeolus Edge) is very strong.
Daigo: Yes. Characters with slow walkspeed, without fireballs, or ways to pass through fireballs will find it extremely difficult to fight Poison.
Itazan: Big body grapplers will land on her HP fireball and eat a juggle combo, so its very troublesome. The hitbox of Poison’s fireball is so large that you might even consider it as an anti-air in some respect.
Momochi: However her uppercut (Kissed by a Goddess) has a very thin hit box and is an unreliable anti-air. She must rely on her ground normals to anti-air and thus is very weak against characters who can change their jump trajectory.
Bonchan: Moreover, Poison’s damage output is not too high. I suppose it’s fair given that her zoning capability is so powerful.
**Daigo: **Perhaps it’s best that all Guile players change over to Poison. The characters basically have the same game plan.
Bonchan: I think of Poison as a powered up version of Rose. In version 1.01, Rose isn’t considered a weak character, but I feel that Poison is stronger.
**Kazunoko: **Is Poison really that strong? I used Yun to play against her and didn’t sense anything spectacular.
this happens because of that silly buffer that anyone with a DP special motion. Which is why it’s harder to play proper footsies in neutral. (like how Ryu has to do cr.MK>hcf+P to do a fireball so that the input buffer doesn’t read f,df,df.) It’s one of the things they were supposed to “fix” with Ryu at least but it’s still there. (and really annoying.)
I actually have this happen a lot to me (more with Poison than with Shotos.)
@tali The Guile statement is sarcastic i am sure ( I can’t think that someone believe that she is better) , I don’t think that it is possible that Poison is better than Guile. I agree with everything else but that statement.
i dont agree with bonchan about her being better than rose or being similar to rose. they look similar on the surface, but her overhead, her reset game, and having love me tender to go over fireballs makes her play quite differently.
whats funny is they say shes the strongest of the new characters but they put in her as c tier…lol
well she’s the strongest because the others struggle so hard.
and I can see Poison being like Rose. At least pre Ultra Rose. She has all the tools (fireball, normals, footsies, different recovery on all 3 fireballs.) but lacks a good defense. (free on wakeup, easy to OS her reversals on wakeup, relies on normals for AAs, low damage output.) The Guile statement is funny though. Outside of Guile doing a bit more damage in the normal department and actually being able to punish more blocked things due to flash kick, why not play Poison? She does the same thing Guile does.
i meant to say it goes to show how badly designed the new characters are as a whole. its almost as if they’re a non factor in tournament play, and they probably are.
Either he knows something we don’t, …well, to be honest, I wouldn’t say one is better than the other. They are simply alternatives. And perhaps in his case, Poison would be the better pick…for his playstyle. So he’s more inclined to say what he did.
Yeah, Poison’s hp AE is really powerful against grapplers. Hugo can’t jump over it, and you can trick Hawk players to Condor Dive right into it. If you have U1 ready it’s a fantastic punish.
If anything I expect a “patch” or “update” after Evo but before PC release to adjust obvious fuck ups on the 5 new characters. Though most of them will probably be simple fixes. (and I doubt one of those “fixes” would deal with giving Poison an actual DP.)
I actually found something worse about the gouken match up… we can’t pressure him at all on wake up unless its a meaty lmt. If we do it in a block string he can trade tatsu into ultra…
Not only that but you can’t keep up in the fireball war let alone win it. And his Counter breaks all meaty hp AE pressure. We are forced to use lp AE in fireball exchanges and he can ex demon flip freely.