This thread needs to be made. The #1 strat against dhalsim is to predict limbs and focus attack dash in.
please give me all the anti strats for defeating this for i’m sure this is a stepping stone for all dhalsims everywhere.
This thread needs to be made. The #1 strat against dhalsim is to predict limbs and focus attack dash in.
please give me all the anti strats for defeating this for i’m sure this is a stepping stone for all dhalsims everywhere.
probably your throwing alot of hp limbs
try using lk or b.lk if your opponent is near
thats why they said they will nerf light kick frames
also throwing EX fire balls work well , and yoga flame is armor break
you have many options , u just need to figure out how to react to your opponent play style
I like c.LP, s.LK, s.MK
s.MK at max range can stuff jumps and a lot of moves (fei’s chicken wing, dictator’s scissors)
s.LK is just fast and has great distance. you can recover from it in enough time to anti air anything if they try to jump
c.LP is hard to counter-hit because it’s so low to the ground (think dictator’s s.HK)
These attacks are fast enough that you can usually hit someone and make them forfeit the life from the first FADC’d attack and they’re quick enough that it’s difficult for them to release focus in time to crumple stun you (unlike s.FP)
i didnt know about Fei Long chicken wing
thanks man , i will try it out , it sounds awsome
Mochi uses b.hk to punish chicken wing clearly.
b.HK is what I use to punish it on reaction. I’m talking about stuffing it.
Iv’e found that mixing up your attacks is key. Like the above response, if u telegraph it, they’ll read it. So throw in a yoga flame, or fire ball, or a s.mp then a lk. Plus, this depends on who your going against. If they have a quick dash, it will be difficult to respond. That’s when your spacing has to be on point. And as you face better people, you’ll find that sweet spot for each character, cause they all have it.
ok
Will it punish chicken wing EX also?
The EX chicken wing is invulnerable at the beginning. However, despite having a great hitbox at the end of the animation it’s not invulnerable at the end. Sim’s b.HK hitbox extends far enough to safely hit any chicken wing once the invulnerability has worn off.
I saw Filipino Champ use U1 on a downed Fei in the corner. Then, he did a meaty yoga mummy to hit the inevitable EX chicken wing into the ultra (due to the mummy’s juggle state property).
Against Chicken Wing is way better to FOCUS on reaction than b.HK, for 2 reasons:
1-You can mess up b.HK timing and eat a counter-hit and a combo that will hurt a lot
2-You can ALWAYS realease at least your level 2 focus, allowing you to combo afterwards, and even if you mess up the timing, the focus will absorb the Chicken Wing instead of you taking a clean hit.
i think chicken wing is 2 hits , how can you focus that ?
or you mean to focus the first hit ?
Its 2 hits only when close.
If you are doing b.HK on reaction, so I assume that the chicken wing is being done at least 1/2 screen. In this range or further, it’ll get only 1 hit
Wait, I was under the impression ChickenWing is unpunishable on-block? Was I misinformed?
ok guys i nid some serious help on how to deal wif ryus wich spam falvl1/2 dash to string combos => fa lvl/2 dash again and rinse repeat wif some throws and frametraps in btw. such a strategy on sim in the corner works and there seems no way to escape it. these ryus dun jump or cross u up when are in the corner, they juz spam fa as mentioned above. even sim’s b.lk doesnt have enuf time to push him out b4 his fa dash sticks to u like glue again. anyone care to help?
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watch tis clip from 5:35 onwards to get a clear picture of what i was saying. sry for my lousy english.
You can Tower Ryu’s FA, and you can throw the FA hit animation (need good reflexes)
hey hardcore, thx for the tip…but i was wondering if i have time to tower on reaction to ryu’s FA…tis shit rly hurts in the corner zzz…
I guess its all up to practice
Hm, it’s more about reading him than reactin in this case. If you know he’s going for a lvl2/3 FA you have time to tower, but if he releases it fast as a lvl1 then you’ll be in trouble.
On reaction you can always throw the FA “attack” part but you need some nice reflexes for that and know the distance well. Since ryu goes a lot foward when he releases the FA, you can throw him for kinda far away, but not that far…
God, I hate playing against focus whores. Such a stupid gameplay mechanic. Durrrr…I don’t have to use my wits to get in, I just have to mash focus like a retard.
Well, without focus Dhalsim would be top tier in this game IMO.
Focus causes us a lot of trouble, but yuo get used to it after a while, problem is that at the beggining we feel the need to hit with s.HP the damn focus when they are 1/2 of the screen and end up only filling their ultra bars and eating a combo if the other guy has a fast foward dash, or we get too predictable with pokes and get focused from full screen.
You have to change your gameplan, try to hold the need of hitting the focus, unless you are sure you gonna hit the followup hit or dash (with say, s.LK twice on most chars).
But if they are really abusing focus from full screen to get in or fill Ultra bar, let them charge the focus, wait, and try to hit the dash cancel part of it, or use the momentum to throw a Yoga Fire and follow it with a s.HP to do a nice damge to them. Just be sure that you aren’t s.HP’ing the invulnerable part of the backdash, you have to delay a little bit after the Yoga Fire hits.
It’s way easier said than done, and some backdashes will make you want to kill yourself necause you’ll miss the s.HP 90% of the time (Chun-li comes to mind here)