Fought a bunch of mirror games against a Japanese Shun player and he gave me a lot of tips in between the fights, feel like I finally have much more grip on the game now, especially now I know some deadly combo strings and good drink opportunities. Feels like I ‘get’ the game now, and these fights also made me realise that Shun is an amazingly hilarious character, handstands and lying on the floor all day erryday!
This feels good, everything is falling in place. The sidestepping, the timing, the feeling of momentum, the juggles. Glad I didn’t give up this just yet to run back to AE.
Managed to do some matches without losing with Jean on ranked. Felt good to not be losing straight again. Now to nail down some more Jean combos and I’ll be sorted for awhile until I need to level up my game again.
Thank you very much for the help guys. I finally got it down. It turns out I was inputting ‘g’ too soon like some of you said. I appreciate the help. Still got a long ways to go to learn this game.
So I bought this game day one, and I’ve leveled up to Hunter mostly in the first few days of playing on ranked. I got to this level not because of skill, but mostly because all the players playing were like me, scrubby. Now that the game has been out for a week or so I’m finding two kinds of players on ranked, and they are:
Super uber pros that know the ins and outs of every character, all the frame data for every move, and how to punish everything I try to do with ease and precision.
Super scrubs that never block, mash 2P, and try the same opening move at the beginning of every round.
Given that these 2 types of players are all that I see I am starting to get frustrated that I can’t find anyone in my skill range. Someone new to VF5, but not to fighting games. Someone that doesn’t know all the moves, set ups, and mixups of their main character, but does know how said main character is “supposed” to be played. Where are you VF5 noob that’s not new to fighting games?
I understand people are having issues with the game, but put it into perspective. how long have you been playing 2D fighters? at the very least 09 or earlier, right? that is at least 3 years of experience or more. And I’m sure you went through a learning curve with that.
So moving onto a 3D fighters, especially one like VF, which is a totally different mindset from not just 2D fighters, but every other 3D fighting game ever. Don’t expect to pick it up as quickly or to have the same sort of success you would in any other fighter you just started learning.
You have two options, quitting in frustration due to not having realistic expectations and taking your time to learn slowly and understanding just how new things are to you. Or gritting your teeth, diving right in and be rewarded with an amazing game.
I hope everyone picks option number 2 as it’s a great game and Vf could always use more players, but if you pick option number 1 then no harm done, at least you tried and I hope you have a greater understanding and respect for people that do stick around and dig deep. And you can always come back to VF later, there have been games I hated the first few weeks and then allowed the game to gather dust, when i played it again, for some reason it clicked with me and I wondered why I wasn’t playing all the time.
random post time. I’m really just in love with this thread and how supportive and willing to help everyone is props to everyone who’s taking time to help newbs like me and GG’s to anyone I’ve met online in the last few days.
Well spoken. The same thing happened for me in CVS2 and Guilty Gear. Hell in Guilty Gear, I quit the game for 2 years and came back to it much much later. Both games are my favorite 2D games ever now. But both left a bad taste in my mouth in the beginning.
Generally you get better in any 2D or 3D fighter by playing people better than you. They are not super uber. If you are getting stepped all the time, Use half or full circular moves to track them. Or wait until you see them sidestepping you to punish them.
Oh hi there, you describe me and I don’t even know you. Are you North America, east coast?
I have mostly played Eileen and have 2 hours experience with Aoi, come at me.
I thought this too. Now I’m destroying mashers and can hold my own against other good players pretty well already. The game just requires a different mindset. Blocking and taking your turn to attack is the most essential thing in this game. Also do not underestimate the power of sidestepping, as a 2D player you may forget about it too often.
I feel like once you get over that barrier as a 2D player, the game becomes so much more enjoyable. It’s like chess, except with ninja’s, kawaii gurlz, and a sumo wrestler.
Good point. It is like chess because of the turns and because you have to think about your opponent’s moves and your own moves in advance.
I agree, many people with high ranks online are not so good. You can get them in trouble if you try hard. I have put some hunters in trouble this morning and I’m a beginner or lower intermediate player at best.
Anyone can make hunter rank. Hell, I’m a hunter and have been for a while now, simply because you will automatically reach hunter but to advance any higher you need to keep a good win/loss ratio vs players hunter or higher. rank doesn’t mean much unless it’s higher than hunter, then you can start assuming the player knows at least enough to give you a good fight.
well the dutch vf crew is still looking for new players to jump in. give me a shout if you want to join one of our offline sessions. we could really use the people
So whos gonna be at the Team Stickbug tourney at NY this weekend?
Im new to the series but Ive been doing a great job online and Ive learned the game relatively fast.
So I have enough confidence to enter the tournament.
I cant wait to engage a new and fresh community and play this game offline with a bunch of players.
I’ll be signing up under the name, Generalkills… Look out for me and my Wolf/Brad
Starting on this game is one of the most painful FG experiences I ever had. My losses keep stacking up from players who are far above my level to Goh players that keep kicking my ass with just 3PP.
The game is still excellent and I don’t plan to give up just yet, but I won’t be feeling myself anytime soon.
Once upon a time there was a Lei Fei player, new to Virtua Fighter, who jumps in, plays the hell out of the offline CPU for weeks, runs through the command dojo repeatedly, is able to consistently land a high damaging combo and fancies himself a good player. Not having gone online since he first got the game and knew nothing, he decides to jump online with his newfound skills, intent on beating down anyone who crosses his path. Lo and behold, he runs into a Pai, who apparently knows nothing other than PPPK strings and KK, 2KK, P+K, and 66K+G. Appalled at the meager knowledge his foe has of his character, the guy feels determined to make quick work of the opposing player with his insane combos that surely cannot fail. Imagine his surprise when he loses at least a dozen matches against this player in a row, because he was so impatient that he never “waited his turn to attack” and kept mashing out combo setups like 9K+G and 1P+K trying to setup a comeback. Time to time he’d land his high damage combo, only to get beaten down and constantly counter hit, hit after hit, with barely a combo being used against him, going from a near full energy bar to nothing while his foe has just a sliver of life left after one single combo and a few stray hits. Salty as ever, he hangs his head and heads over to the Dojo to improve his game.
That Lei Fei player was/is me. Moral of the story, don’t go thinking you’re all-powerful once you’ve nailed a sick string. Big combos are not key, knowing the right moves to use at the right time are. I don’t even know Lei Fei’s fastest move when he’s just blocked or evaded. I swear, I’d block or evade the most unsafe thing ever and try a move I think is pretty fast, like 4PP, (checking now, I discover it’s 19 frames, holy shit) and it’ll be blocked and I’m back to disadvantage again and I missed my shot at turning the momentum in my favor. When you’re losing, don’t count on your 80+ damage combo with a 20 frame startup move to put you back in shape. You’ve got to gain the upper hand and whittle your foe down little by little, taking advantage of every little chance you get. And in those glorious moments where you read your opponent exactly right and you find yourself at a huge advantage, there’s your golden chance for the BIG combo. Remember, reads and proper prediction (or yomi) is a huge part of Virtua Fighter, and not just the big combos.
