Video of man who shot dead neighbour over loud music claims it proves he acted in self defense

What video did you watch?

Man, please. They weren’t trying to leave. Nobody was a fuckin’ hostage. They coulda just backed the fuck away and said “Alright, brother, we’ll see what the cops say when they get here” instead of coming closer and talking shit to the guy and gone back to their house. These dudes came out into the street AFTER the guy. He wanted them to stay away from him, he wasn’t holding them hostage. Where did you get THAT shit?? They stayed around not because they were told to get down on the ground or anything, but because they wanted to stomp the shit out of someone who dared to voice a problem with them rocking the neighborhood and didn’t think he’d do anything to protect once they got in his face (like nerd picked on in school. They’ll talk shit from down the hallway, but then when the bully gets in their face, the victim just cowers. That’s what they were counting on). Here’s where you seem to be lost/confused: He shot them BECAUSE THEY ADVANCED ON HIM, not because they moved in general. They chose to menace him. He told them “get back/stay away from me, I’m in fear for my life.” Somebody says that, that shit means back the fuck up or I will shoot you. Common sense is rare in people like these hicks, especially once they get a few in them. They die trying to race trains across tracks every month. All they had to do was go back to their business, continue partying, flipped the guy off a few times to satisfy their egos, and everything would be cool till the cops came… but they were drunken idiots, and they were gonna step off their property to fuck with him despite the gun…cuz they were fuckin’ stupid.

Dude!! Too soon, man, too soon.

You need to be present for a one-man bank robbery with a video camera. I’d like to see your disarming skills. You make that shit sound easy as scooping up a kitten…you’re rocking that “Rad Ki”, aren’t you?

Who said they were or had to? They have a right to be in the street too, except when Raul is out there because he owns the street or something. He should have put his gun away after he told them to back off. He already made it clear that he has a gun and wants to shoot someone, now put it away and continue making your fire safety video. If they had rushed him, then I would totally understand him shooting them because there is no reason to rush a guy for standing in the street making a video. When he has a gun out, then we have a problem. There isn’t anything indicating they tried to disarm him, but you can’t say they didn’t have a right to rush him because their lives were in danger.

Put the gun away and go home.

yes I would. You want my wallet? Here the fuck it is, I can always cancel my cards and get a new ID. I don’t carry any more than 30 dollars in that shit anyway, and I’m not going to play fucking hero when all he is doing is pointing a fucking firearm at me saying move it. You swear he has the gun on your forehead and you know he is going to execute you.

dangerous for who? for fucking who? How in the fuck are you going to diffuse the situation by bum rushing him like a fucking dumb shit. How is that going to make it any better? How? He told them to fuck off, and they didn’t. One of them paid the price, and the other jack ass is now rightfully paying 40 years worth of his time.

And thirst for blood? WTF is that shit?

And how was this premeditated murder? It was intent to use a deadly weapon, just because you intend to use such a tool doesn’t mean you want to out right murder somebody. Not only did these clowns lack any common sense, you lack it also.

They only came out into the street to go after the guy. Them leaving the yard was not some incidental shit. They went out there specifically to escalate some shit, and probably try to stomp the shit out of that guy. You missed the part where he DID get rushed, didn’t you? It was like a second before the shooting starts. One of that dude’s idiot friends rushed in from the left, laughing. That aside, let me understand your thinking: if someone outside your yard has a gun, you will approach him because he could be trouble (and for you, the smart thing to do is put yourself into his path). If they tell you to stay in your yard and don’t come toward them, you will do the exact opposite (because you are the protector of all, or something, and they don’t own the street…by the way, the police will tell you you’re an idiot while they take your statement from your hospital bed, if you survive). You’re just gonna try the guy, because, fuck common sense and staying out of harm’s way, he has no right to tell ME what to do!! You like to race trains, don’t you?

So I guess you shouldn’t be afraid of someone with a gun because they are 10-30 yds away from you and not at your forehead? Last time I checked you don’t need to be at point blank range to hit someone with a gun. Glad I could share that with you before someone takes your wallet from across the street.

What right does he have to tell people to fuck off in the middle of the street? None. If he doesn’t like people blocking his camera’s view for his safety video, he can move. Wave a gun around and you can tell people to fuck off all of a sudden?

This guy retired too earlier obviously.

some clown pulls a gun to make people do what he wants and THEY’RE the bullies? lol stay dumb, SRK.

those guys were dead as soon as this clown left his house with the 911 operator on the phone prepared to yell that “i feel threatened” bullshit, no amount of amount of backing away was gonna change that…

If he’s telling me to stay away, I’ll just back my ass away with my hands up at shoulder level non-threateningly. “Don’t come any closer” doesn’t mean “don’t move”. You seem to be having trouble with this concept.

If someone pulled a gun on me for walking toward them, I would immediately walk IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

We should just make a guide book called, “How not to get fucking shot, a practical guide.”

He can’t pull a gun out on people and tell them where to go or be. There is NOTHING legal about that. I’m in the grocery to get some umm Lucky Charms that are behind him and I approach him tells me don’t come closer and pulls his gun. WTF is this shit? He thinks he can tell anyone to back off and don’t come closer because he has a gun and if you do he can shoot you. They approached me when I told not to so I shot them. Yeah, that will sure fly in court.

One witness testified that he says you can shoot anyone under SYG if you SAY that you fear for your life and get away it. The same shit he pulled in the street he can pull anywhere else as far as he is concerned. The park, the grocery store where the Lucky Charms are, doesn’t matter as long as he says I fear for my life huh?

Then some of you are downplaying a man in the street with a gun as not a threat to anyone. Just ignore him. The police will just drive by if he isn’t pointing it at anyone. You can’t be that naive.

Man you guys will just say shit just to argue eh?

Both parties had fault in this. Maybe one more than other. Maybe. It’s all academic at this point.

Fucking men lol. Too much testosterone flying around, nobody wanted to back down. Everyone’s a big man, huh? Now we got one drunk idiot dead and one trigger happy idiot doing 40 years. Fuck it. Any male who still thinks running your mouth and puffing your chest out is what constitutes being a man should be dead or rotting away anyway. Cleanse the gene pool.

common sense in this thread? The fuck is the world coming to.

HAHAHA oh man :frowning:

He really said they were going to escalate it when he is the one who pulled the gun first? From watching that video it seems like Rodriguez wanted to shoot someone. You would think dude would have went home after he felt threatened and when they said that they were going to retaliate with their own guns. Yet he stays there saying to the dispatcher that “I’m going to have to defend myself” and “I’m not going to lose to these people anymore”.

There is fault in both parties, Rodriguez should not have antagonized them and left it to the police to handle and Danaher party should not have drove to where he was or tried to disarm him.

Common sense should dictate that if you introduce a gun into a situation bad things will happen. Its one thing to have the gun on you for protection. Its another thing to off the break, draw it out and point at people thinking its gonna make the situation better. Even if you say both parties are at fault, what was the guarantee that even if those guys had walked off, that homeboy wouldn’t have shot them and feigned self defense?

sooo… why the camera go all crazy at the end?

if three dudes start surrounding you in the street you wouldn’t pull your piece out?
This guy isn’t too “gun CrazY” if he only shot one of them.

Sucks cuz its probably a a nice middle class neighborhood that is infiltrated by classless scum that can now move into these hoods thanks to the housing market.

As far as the young turks… Lol. Aren’t they just actors that look up the word liberal and try to embody it?

ya shooting 1 dude over a noisy party is normal. 2…now were talking crazy

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