Thanks for clarifying hfz69!
From Kanagawa vs. Chiba: [media=youtube]sE24BYb–Uw[/media]
7:37 to see some more broken EX Lunge shit.
That wasn’t broken. That was dive kick-cl st mp-ex lunge. That is very tight cancel.
Idk what the exact frames are, but it feels like you have to cancel it on the very first active frame.
i consider that damage to ultra on one EX meter broken, and you sure it was cl.mp? Looked like cl.fp
its cl.mp, afaik you can only combo into ex lunge punch from close st.mp…?(i might be wrong though, gonna check frame data now)
Need training mode, even though it should be feasible according to frame-data probably first-hit of cl.fp that you cancel doesn’t have enough hitstun to combo into ex-lunge.
cl.hp xx ex lunge punch is not possible.
and watchin the video again, im sure its close.mp. there shouldnt be any argument about it imo.
Np, just speculating.
Hmmm, so it’s legit because it’s “hard” ? (not that any normal xx special can be really hard, but hey…)
Oh and btw even if it’s supposedly hard and you fuck up…you’re still at +1, heheh
How is this harder than Tiger Uppercut>FADC>F+HK>Ultra? We had Vanilla broke, and we now have AE broke (launch into ultra with one meter, damaging combo) That EX Lunge is 140, and juggles into LP Lunge/Ultra. That’s more output for your meter than other characters. And if you fuck up? You chip them, +1 on block and start offense. fuck up a tiger uppercut you’re eating a half life combo.
I’m not bitter that it’s broke, I love broke things!
That’s exactly what I’m saying, it’s not hard, and even if it were I’d still be stupid.
CMD throw > s.mp xx ex lunge > ultra > more juggle for 400+ damage? On a dive kick character That makes you scared ot press buttons? Yeah…
I’m not say ex lunge isn’t a bitch to deal with. I’m say that was completely legit on Yun’s part and
a colossal fuck up on the Ryu’s part. You have to use pokes that have vertical and horizontal range
in order to successfully keep Yun out. Ryu’s cr mk does not apply.
Bison’s st hk or Fei’s cr mp are good examples that do apply.
How is that legit? Refer to the Sagat example in Vanilla, if they screwed up they were eating big damage. If we screw this up we just chip them and have frame advantage to play with. Sagat was super fucking annoying. Yun is a complete bitch that is overpowered. I don’t see how you can even try to argue that Yun isn’t complete bullshit. I play him and I’m not gonna even try to pretend he isn’t ridiculous.
Which isn’t legit?
Him being able to combo into ex lp, ex lp being +1 on block, being able to combo into ultra from ex lp or all the above. I’ve always been of the opinion that if you get hit you deserve whatever happens to you after that.
That being said ex lp being plus on block is the only thing out of what I listed that I could consider being bs.
But that’s no different than ex rekka being +2 on block or ex slash +6 on block.
Usually top tier characters have stupid shit. By stupid shit I mean things that the majority of the
cast doesn’t. Anybody remember trade dp into ultra or the hadoken into shinku hadoken trap.
This is a rushdown game now. Chunking plasma for a slow death never makes people as salty as opening them up in a 20 sec timespan. Yun being overpowering and worse than Vanilla Sagat that’s a laugh.
How about you least wait a yr for it to be out on console before proclaiming it from the mountain tops.
I’m not going to make the comparison I’m just going to say Sagat had one counter
pick at high level play, Akuma. Yun has Fei, Ken, THawk, Bison, Zangief, ect…
I’m just shocked at the amount of bitching and moaning across SRK board in regards to AE.
I guess it’s just the generation of the patch.
The difference is that ex lunge travels full screen…ex rekka and ex mantis don’t. Also, on hit it combos into another lp lunge or ultra. ex rekkas and ex mantis don’t.
Btw, fei, ken and bison aren’t gonna be BAD matchups for yun. They’re only gonna be bad in the sense that he cannot just shit on them for free and it’s actually gonna be an even match. In all the other matchups he probably has the advantage. Gief and Hawk are possibly the only 4-6 matches I can see for him
Fei is going to be a bad matchup.
Unless someone finds a button that yun has to beat Fei’s cr mp in footsies it’s gonna be tough.
Fei has two buttons right now that beat dive kicks on reaction clean; st lp and cr mp. He can also dp.
The only thing I’ve found that works with some consistency when punishing his whiffed pokes is lk cancel into lp. He wins on the ground in this match up and never has to do anything truly unsafe. To compensate for not having an answer on the ground yun inevitably has to go to the air. His low health plus Fei’s easy counters for dive kick pressure don’t bode well for yun in this match up. Once he pushes you to the corner it’s 9/10 a wrap
Ken idk so as much about. I do know that the same buttons that Fei has to kill dive kick pressure Ken does also. He also has st hp and dp. The same thing that applies to the Fei match up mostly apply Ken. Except his corner pressure isn’t as dominant.
Bison is easy to me once knocked down. He just has good tools to keep you out for an extended period.
In general characters that force him to fight a more grounded game are then ones that give him problems.
Regardless, if Sagat, Makoto, Ken, Yang, Fei, Bison, Viper, Hawk, Gief, and Adon only end up being 5-5 that’s 5x more even match ups than Sagat had in Vanilla.
I hate this generation of players. This is reminiscent of the Vanilla Sagat boards where instead of Sagat players talking about their character, it was everyone else chiming in and moaning about why he’s OP. Why do people bother coming to a Yun specific foum to cry about his moveset? Especially when they haven’t played AE?
Dude if the internet in this form was even 1/3 a prolific in 3s… the chun board would still be blowing up.
Hell watch the 3s online chun board go apeshit.
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Sick reset in the second round
I have played AE and I use Yun so I come here for info. Bitching and moaning about the character is talking about the character, I guess.
In my experience using Yun and playing against him, he is incredibly strong. Every single one of his moves has a purpose and almost all ex versions are used. I guess 1, 2, 3 is outdated now since we can hit confirm off shorts.
The only true bad match up he has is Fei and maybe Hawk since he definitely has a slight advantage. I feel that everyone else you listed is pretty much even yes including Gief. st.mp blows up every single thing Gief presses except block. So if your spacing is on point just press that button and make sure you don’t get SPD.
The reason that combo is bullshit to me because of risk/reward and meter/damage. Crazy damage for 1 meter+your ultra or you get another shot to crack em open. Don’t get me wrong I don’t want anything to change in a patch. I’d rather whatever I practice at home translate directly to the arcade. I just find it absurd that you can try to argue that Yun is not an op character. But yeah I won’t say anything about it again
If superlollo mains yun he’ll be back in a month and say that yun isn’t op. He’s now constantly trolling about akuma not being top tier lol. Someone should start a thread for bitching and keep out of this thread tho!