Ive stumbled onto the single most fun and effective utility buff to vega. I would like to focus cancel the recovery frames of back flip. It makes our evade useful only when we have 2 bars so we cant abuse it. It works as a reversal. Its still a bit risky so thats why vega should get it. and it can work as an aiti air (evade).
Now dont be jealous cuz you didnt think about it…BRB …gonna tweet bomb ono…
And is the oponnent on juggle state after that gen counterhit cr HP?..would you please lie to me and tell me he is?
Sounds that way. SHC is actually useful for crossing up opponents now.
That’s a seven frame anti air (4 to jump + 3 to air throw), plus its easy to zone jump throw with moves such as vega far j.mp and ryu J.Hk of death (far). Same as his :u:HK. We’re not saying we dont have we’re saying we have so much situational ones that we’re often guessing and then there’s stuff like ryu’s J.HK that defies all sense of balance.
writing more fun, as opposed to funner takes more time. Im lazy, so im not going to stop.
writing this post was funner than I thought.
They let AE buffs and took out a third of AE nerfs. Plus the SHC thing and the U1 fix.
If the environment doesnt get too buffed, we are good to go.
Now, SHC is way too slow, terrible recovery on block and on whiff and can de focused (right?), not that much useful. I doubt it we are going to see some high level Vega use it twice in a match. But oh well, lets wait and see.
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Funnier.
Nope. SHC is armor breaking.
IDK about that. If SHC is gonna drop opponents I’d think they’d just say that, and wouldn’t put as much emphasis on the “blowback” part. If you’re right, however, that changes everything. That makes this set of buffs fantastic. Except U2. Anything over 7 frames at SU for this doesnt work, at least for me. But whatevs, they buffed U1, Im cool with it. Here’s to hoping for knock down SHC.
No it isn’t. Only the ex version is.
Lol, no it’s not.
Oh whoops. Thought it was. My mistake.
YES. not.
It is an airborne knockdown state and moves with pursuit property can catch it. I don’t think SHC will recover fast enough to do that anyways.
$20 says that if SHC doesnt knock down then sagat can still kara TU FADC, F+HK, U1 you.
Not that I necessarily believe this is true, but the vanity is fitting.
It’s too bad winning is more beautiful than toughing it out, though.
I only really use shc for that one ex crossup. Maybe cross up fierce shc for trolling. I wonder if this blowback thing means juggle.
I rarely used ch so I don’t care.
If my expectation is correct and SHC actually makes opponents fly away a little after connecting, it may be possible to put Claw in a perfect distance where he can do a safe CH. It would be still too hard to connect it though, even if it was armour break.
Why are you still discussing SHC? It is STILL -20 on block, almost the whole cast can taunt and raw Ultra you. Why would anyone risk this for 100 damage and a possible knockdown?
because its the only thing to talk about at this moment?
why is thread still open. both sides of the camp ground can’t be happy with the changes without pissing off the other side. we keep establishing this every time something is mentioned. Why is this?
Because one side sees that they didn’t address his design flaws and is disappointed, the other is happy there are buffs in the first place, no matter how useful (or useless) they might be stating we should be happy we did not receive any nerfs.
By the way does anybody know if this are really going to be the final changes…this is like an early version of the 2012 edition…this things can still change…that’s why they run the location test right…any claw player will let them know some of this buff are useless…and if only shc was safer on block…it used to be great in sfa3…did little damage but it was very safe…any other change to the move would make it viable…faster start up…faster recovery…safer on block…