Vega Q&A: Ask simple questions here!

Your plan assumes you always have meter. And he never wall jumps unless im trying to get in. If he sees that I sit there and try te “bait” game he is contempt with throwing fireballs. He isnt the type to do stupid things, or things with out reason.

You cant shut down his nj.hp game. Its not possible, at least with out sacrificing punishment oppurtunities, and sacrificing positional advantage. And he only does it to zone. Once im in it stops, and he does his mix up game where you have to guess because you have no invul frames or a GTFO me move. Although ST works, it isnt consistent enough.

THis assumes he is stupid enough to throw one. He isnt. If im sitting on Ultra one he doesnt even jump because I have gotten him plenty of times. He would rather lose to time out than some stupid mistake.

Again this assumes he doesnt know his buttons. jf.mp or jb.mp stops anything you have because of its hit box start up, and active frames. And its not as easy as land U1 or an Izuna loop. He has telport it wont work. Only position i have a slight advantage is poking range, and full advantage is on wake up. Any ohter position and its bad. Outside and he zones badly, if im blocking its command grab, dives, neutral jump, crossups. On wake up its even worse because of ambigious cross ups, and they are nasty.

Hey you guys I went into training mode today and landed a cl.mp.xxexfba

I buffered the charge and at the last minute before hitting mp i moved the downback charge to a back charge so that the normal comes out as a standing one.

I could only get this to work for st.lp, st.mp and st.mk

Does this have any real uses though? Just wondering

I don’t think so.
You can cancel close Normals like st.HP into ST though and that could be useful in a way cause ST whiffs crouching opponents unless cancelled from a normal that forces stand (which st.HP does).

In the rare situation where your opponent is in the air and will get an air reset after one hit (so you cannot combo your normal into EX FBA) then you can stand and land a standing normal normal and cancel it to normal FBA for either a free escape (if it’s a match where they cannot punish runaway flying barcelonas, and a match where keeping distance is your strategy, (Rufus, Grapplers), and finally you have the life lead and are content to make them WORK at getting in on you again.

Also, you can stand up and use the standing normal (I prefer cl.s.jab and cl.s.strong) and cancel to normal FBA to the closest wall for a FBA mixup, but it won’t be meaty and as a Claw player you know how risky going for an FBA mixup is.

i’d need to see a match then tbh… or hit up tatsu… he plays onlinetony all the time. i’ll tell him to put his advice on here next time i see him

my favorite is the walking ST

Ok, so i found my solution, and its rather obvious to.

But id still like to hear Tatsu’s say.

and thanks for the input, i found innovative solutions for both my problems.

As said by sasiki it is not very intresting,

cls.mk has very similar reach the same properties and comes out 1 frame faster than cls.mp, damage doesn’t depend on claw, while the only positive for cls.mp is 1 more frame of leeway when you cancel into mp.RCF.

EX.FBA as a cancel is not intresting after cls.mk/cls.mp/cls.Hp,

at the range where cls.mp xx FBA hit, cr.mp xx EX FBA doesn’t whiff either, and more importantly neither does cr.lp – cr.mp xx EXFBA,
and it has

  • superior or equal damage, stun and meter yield.
  • quicker startup
  • higher “priority”
  • and a possibility for kind of “~hit confirmation~” before committing into the really unsafe part and spending your meter on a block.

RCF cancels

cls.mk is intresting when canceled into lp.RCF- mp.RCF on a crouching opponent because unlike other moves the first hit of the RCF doesn’t whiff which makes it combo or string ( on block),

It is more intresting than cls.hp because cls.mk xx mp.RCF does overall same damage and stun as cls.hp xx hp.RCF but with a quicker startup, less claw dependant damage, less punishable on whiff move and easier execution.

As for ST cancels,

cls.mk and cls.mp, are very intresting because they combo into lk.ST on standing opponents (like cls.hp and cr.lk)
on any stance into hk.ST or EX ST (like cls.hp and cr.lk), but they cause more damage more stun ,similar meter. for the aforementioned reasons prefer cls.mk over cls.mp

cls.hp Offers a cancel into lk.ST on crouching opponents, a safer hit confirming attempt, that is still comboable if the cancel is done too late, but does less damage, less stun and has slower startup.

cr.lk Offers a faster startup and better priority, but has shit damage output, it is the low execution/lag proof alternate.

Isnt it just amazing when people feel the need to counter pick. Just to stand a chance. That such an ego boost. Makes me feel im better than them.

If you can’t beat someone with your main, you likely won’t be able to beat them at all :wink:

vega has a counterpick?

Supposedly Bison, Guile, Chun, Boxer, Blanka, Honda

For sure Abel,

Scratch on the makes me feel better than them, it makes me know im better than them.

Btw, can any of you peeps play my Ryu.

abel is a counterpick to everyone but gief lol. Blanka isnt a counterpick to anyone. the rest i can sorta agree with

Blanka is free for Vega.

blanka is free for everyone.

I really dont get what is a “OS” and “Safe Jump”. Can anybody give general knowledge or point to wear i can get that info? What would be the “OS” and “Safe Jump” for Vega(claw)?

Thanks for the help.

Tatsu why? What do you think you could have done better agianst Adon?

SCR was great. One away from making top 8. Clakey-D took it. I wish I had more knowledge against the Ibuki match up. I didn’t know she had so many counter-pokes into untechable knockdowns. It wasn’t the vortex that got me.

I feel worse about giving Clakey-D an easy ticket to top 8 more than actually losing to him.

Taking out Mike Ross wasn’t too bad either. Ultra’d his headbutt for the win. He didn’t know what do for most of the match up.

And thanks for all the random ass info on this thread guys

impressive claw… i thought i was watching tatsu for a sec… then you forgot to show off. lol

Any vids of your matches recorded from SCR other than the ones streamed? I wanna see your honda match.

Sorry, they didn’t stream the match between me and Mike because of time limitations.

There was a crowd behind me, so maybe someone recorded it~