No no no. Only claw s.HP forces standing.
meterless DP punishments
clawless:
https://youtu.be/ttRsGx0c5wU
306 dmg
335 dmg
claw:
https://youtu.be/QWtQGgaPyxc
312 dmg
348 dmg
Not that I know of. I believe only punch normals change properties
Such beautiful form. Graceful, even.
Oh geez, I was wrapping my head around how you got BH s.HP xx SC, claw s.HP to work. Then I noticed the counter hit lol.
i fucking knew he had some sick claw on/off combos lol. well done.
indeed! And if you want to expand the combo and use meter, you can go with ex FBA after cr. mp (and V-Trigger/ex ASE) but i simply can’t do this on the PS4 pad >_>
j. Hk, 5 Hp, 236 P, 5 Lk, 2 Mp, 236 Mk followed by a dash and then a command grab is a set up that I have been having some success with…Probably won’t work as well once people figure out what’s going on though
Forgive my noobbness but how is it that you get a counter hit off a blocked DP? I was under the impression that a counter hit occurred when you hit someone out of the startup frames of a move
A counter hit state is simply applied to the dp’s recovery after it is blocked. It’s more common in anime games for things that put you in counter hit state. Like in Guilty Gear if you fill someone’s guard gauge, every attack they get hit by will land as counter hit even if they didn’t attack.
even if the dp just whiffs 
they made it as an additional risk for whoever spams DPs
I’ve heard from some people that they’ve seen the counter hit effect not appear on whiff. @otori could clarify I think
Interesting, I kinda like that, bait a DP and style on them with sexy vega CH combos.
even if st. hp xx stance switch, st. hp xx stance switch combos don’t wind up being ideal for dp punishes i’m still gonna do them because omg so cool
dunno if they removed it in latest build but it used to CH even on whiff
Vega’s pokes are really good, that is all. =P
He’s currently the closest thing to Viper being in the game. But I’m still blindly holding out for an execution-savvy, cancel-happy character to eventually be added to the roster.
Until then, I’ll be having fun mastering Karin’s supposed EWGF-like (Dorya!) command dash ~ Fierce maneuver. I’m hoping people weren’t exaggerating about that.
AFAIK the rule is invincible non EX moves are crush counterable, regardless of block or not.
EX moves are not crush counterable, nor “DPs” without invincibility frames (maybe light shoryukens?)
Can someone try to do EX FBA after the cr mp to see the damage output? I simply can’t do it with the ps4 pad
I think stance switch combos have the best damage for punishes, right? I don’t know, but it seems so, specially if you use meter.