Vega General Thread: The Masked Narcissist Enters The Tournament

How good is b+HK as a poke? Is it similar to V ism Ryu/Akuma b+HK?

Nope, the hitbox is pretty close to him and its slow in general. It’s basically only used for delay frame traps or on their wakeup.

Last beta it was pretty safe on block as well (not sure about that cuz you know nobody tries to punish anything in these betas) so it was a great follow up to a jump-in giving you plenty of time to hit-confirm and it would also stand the opponent up.
Has lots of startup frames though, so you’d have to hit pretty deep on medium kick jump-ins to make it combo.
I’ve also anti-aired with it, but that was more of an execution error. Uppercut, standing HK and crouching HP are probably better anti-airs in almost every situation.
Cool move, shitty poke though.

Its purpose it that similar of the sf4 version, as an AA specifically for xup range jumpins where cr.hp or dp will whiff, also using it as an antiair it knocks them down rather than air resets but i would assume worst damage of the punch, used primarily as a very open frame trap and for big damage punishes.

How punishable is Vega’s wall dive on block/whiff? I haven’t really seen anyone use it outside of the EX version.

I can’t give you a straight answer. But from what I remember, bare-handed FBA is safer and might not have that bounce recovery animation on whiff that claw FBA does.

Oh I don’t know I was always pleased with how Guile turned out.

Tbh i like also the slighty modified hadouken animation he have as V-reversal

It was cool if it was an actual new special, a close quarter attack that work like the mule kick

In general gameplay that b+hk move is pretty questionable though. It’s worse than his close s. rh in other games imo just as far as hitboxes go. This isn’t like walk up axe kick in other games by any means.

Whether you think the damaging combos that are easily hit confirmable from it make the move worth throwing out in non punish situations is up to you. Works pretty well as a meaty at least.

I don’t think I even seen walldive get punished on block in SFV.

They fucking took away Ryu’s stand/crouch short cancel? Really? Tell me it’s a joke …

This game … Omg …

Ryu taking them Vanilla Sagat nerfs before Vanilla SFV hits LOL.

I would it if they brought back the old school sweep into fireball.

Also the HD remix fake fireball would make for some interesting mind games.

Where is he playing the game? We just had two major events with lots of public with the latest build we know and this went unreported.

Xiaohai didn’t press s.LK once during that tournament funny enough LOL

Jesus his st.lk cancel is one of the most interesting he had even ultradavid liked it as well. Problem is Thats not even half of it, here some rumor changes:

  • St.mk, St.hp, St.hk, Cr.hk are V-trigger cancelable * Its more universal mechanic though*
  • Slightly range increase cr.mk * Not sure still doesn’t look too good yet*
  • Cr.mp, Sweep combos * haven’t seen footage of this though might be true*

this seems to be good part of it, now

  • St.lp into St.mp doesn’t combo This more a universal nerf for lp into medium but does hurt st.hk, st.lp, tc which his meterless max damage, also less damage from a meaty overhead and etc
  • Cr.lk not cancelable anymore
  • now it seems St.lk not cancelable anymore
  • St.mp, sweep doesn’t combo
  • Shinku Hadoken hard knockdown removed
  • Ex DP juggle potential decrease
    Parry adjustments
  • Parry builds around 1/10 of a v-meter bar
  • startup increase
  • whiff recovery increase easier to get counterhit
    V-Trigger adjustments
  • Each hadoken drains 10% of his V-trigger
  • To Fully charge guard break hadoken last slightly longer
  • Fully charge hadoken stun decrease from 700 to around 300

I forgot the other changes. Think i know capcom reason behind these changes but i definitely don’t think ryu deserve some of these changes. I would like to think they just experimenting which i’m 90% sure but if he stay like this will be seeing way less interesting/solid ryu than he was in the beta.

I can’t believe that list of changes, I swear. If it is so, it must be JUST to experiment. If not, then I’m out of this game, lol, fuck that.

Nah, man! It’s too stupid to be true, even for Capcom.

I hate to be that guy but…did ken keep his s.lk cancel?

https://twitter.com/winnerstayson/status/655813165889015808

Makes sense. Doubt they would have messed with Ryu without changing Ken also.

Damn, that means 2nd phase beta Ken is gonna be outdated as hell. Nice