Vega General Discussion 2013-2015 and on!

Well that’s just like, your opinion, man.

What you said is just like, your opinion as well, man.
I don’t know what the hell that is suppose to mean.

But for sure that is not the point. Point is: Don’t have a scrubby mindset. Don’t win against one guy that you lose 95% of the time and run to Replay Channel to upload it. Don’t be proud about a perfect that you probably got because of mistakes of the opponent rather than really good and well thought decisions made by you. Don’t think that beating a “A+” player makes you anything good, as neither losing to a “D” player makes you anything bad.

Lol. Thanks, coach. Real eye opener. I didn’t know you were such a presumptious drama queen.

Big Knowledge Gap! (The Big Lebowski) Everything else is spot on though.

You can enjoy your (online) victory for sure. By yourself. But why brag about it here? What did you think would be the response?

I thought you’d all want to date me and buy me nice cars and icecream.

No, really, I know most of you are miserable shits so I expected this in one shade or another, but I did it anyway. Go figure.

no u

That said, I am 100% for running to the replay channel and uploading when you embarrass someone notable, haha. It makes for good drama. I included a DP of VolcanicAkuma (#2 Akuma on xbox at the time) in my “griefing noobs with Vega” video. He eventually found it and wasn’t too happy, hahaha! Said it humiliated him and he challenged me to a rematch (ft5 I think?). I told him I’d upload the set too, which made it made it really intense. He beat me convincingly and I manned up with the upload :slight_smile:

Considering Claw’s defensive abilities, specially when knocked down, and his low stun, perfecting a claw player isn’t anything exceptionnal. Three or two good guesses, and that’s it.

Now I imagine I would have been happy just by winning against such player, so I understand Prof’s reaction. :slight_smile:

Happened to me recently, though I’m not specially notable. One akuma player did beat me in a single ranked online match, by tick-throwing me 5 times in a row (I must say I wasn’t expecting he would throw me on hit as well ^^), then randomly ultraing at the second round. I was beaten in 30 sec each. No real problem here, I was just angry against myself for losing against such low level of play. But then, he uploaded it on a french forum.

So I invited him for a FT3 rematch, won 3-0 and nearly double perfected him in the last match. I still played horribly, but that was a kinda dramatic, aggravated set, with lots of counterhits. Lots of drama indeed. I’m gonna upload back tomorrow. :slight_smile:

I perfected a Gouken twice with Vega, and I haven’t used Vega since Super. Should I upload the replay? Kappa.

I perfected online A and A+ rank scrubs on both PS3 and 360 on my first day back after almost 2 years away. I should be worshipped as the American God I am. :stuck_out_tongue:

I perfected a 9k bp Vega player in a mirror match. This makes me the best in the world. Vega isn’t my main.

I was perfected by a 0k bp non Vega player in mirror match.

Oops. =D

watch this folks if you know footsies and space control, you know which normal im talking about.


That’s how Vega’s pokes should work, Oni’s footsies are so good, Sagat’s tier but way better, and they have the ability to shut down pokes that shift any hurt box forward. Vega has one, but it isn’t as safe or practical as Oni’s due to recovery…

You have stLK and crLP to do that. They are better than Oni’s.

While using Claw you can complain about the lack of good normals to anti air, but never the lack of good normals to play footsies.

lol

I don’t knOw how you peeeps don’t see it. that single poke is bettet than st.lk or cr.lp.

is better than cr.lp because it doesn’t shift the hurtbox forward and controls more space, and mskes it so that at optimal spave lows miss and he doesn’t.

as for st.lk, the combo potential isn’t thwre but its a better poke to force a reaction, which he showed during the game. st lk is a better pressire poke than a poke…

know your normals people, its been 5 years.

and I didn’t say his normaks wherent good. learn to read, i said this one is a bettet poke and that’s how vegas should work.

and nobody shoukd be complaining about AA. if they are you just plain suck and should get good.

Is it we that need to learn how to read or its you that need to learn how to type? My dog can communicate better than you. Geez. There is nothing wrong with a typo, but when it gets to the point that the reader can’t understand what mean… it becomes a problem.

Oni’s fLK can get crumpled, our stLK can’t. I can’t express how big this is.
We can confirm into more than 220 of dmg. Oni can’t.
It does shift our hurtbox forward a little, but if you are afraid of getting hit by a move that was stuck out there you can either use crLP (which is even faster and can combo into 220+ dmg as well), or you can learn how to whiff punish. You know… its been 5 years, its about time already.

You have better tools. Learn how to use it. Know your normals. And stop envying a poke that Oni has ffs.

One more thing. Be more polite. You can’t be a complete douche and don’t know shit at the same time.

you can only confirm with certain characters.

it can be crumpled as well but its harder.

st.lk is 4 frames ala cr.lp and your tellibg I don’t know? lol

we can go all day if you want.

the whole point was that this poke shifts him in such a way that it makes it a superb poke. this is a poke, thays all it is, vs cr.lp or st.lk are pressure pokes.

which is why its a better poke.

the only flaw thia poke has is that it can be focus dashed, like cr.mp you know??

but hey selectevly reading part of the posts, and then harping on apelling errors is typical behavior of scrub tier dumbasses like you who still bitch about lack of AA.

this is a better poke when you apply the most honest and pure definition of a poke. its something that forcea a reaction because its relatively safe and controls a lot of space.

cr.lp and st.lk only contr the space in front and don’t take up much vertical space. vs thia thing which does and is evident by it atuffing kens cr.mk multiple times.

and don’t tell me what can and can’t be used. I’m the one who insited on and got into many stupid arguments with other board members regarding the use of other normals when only cr.mp was used.

I don’t need a pleb who doesn’t know the differences between a poke like oni’s and a poke like st.lk telling me or teying to educate me with information that me and many many other veteran players that all worked hard to advance this charcter from ahit tier to competitve, because they aren’t even in the same class of pokes. there’s litarraly a library of knowledge on this board that breaks down each and every normal and its intended uaes wits secondary applications.

but of course you knew that right? cr.mp like st.mk, like cr.mk like the old cosmic heel where all pokes that forced a reaction. their flaw was that it moves the hurtbox forward, which natters so much when playing somebody who actually understands footsies. that small shift can be abused by a smart player and he can just throw a move that lingers. effectively limiting your options at that given time putting you on the defensive, the worst position any charcter can be in this game. this one move doesn’t, and is why I posted the video.

secondly it doeant matter if it can be focus dashed or crumpled. all pure pokes are designed to loae to focus attacking.

in fact in the early days there was threads dedicated to overcomimg this because it was such a huge weakness, and why running away was the morw popular playstyle.

so don’t come at me as I’d you know and then refeer moves to me when they don’t belong in the conversation. this wasn’t about pressure pike tools. it was about true pokes that forced a reaction that favored you. because have any of you ever seen a fo rced reaction by using either of those two other than os throw???

I thought so.

fyi, terrible speeling is due to typing thia on phone. reffer to older posts, every body got shitted on, everybody. get over it

You don’t deserve an answer explaining why every line of what you wrote is wrong. You are just too full of yourself to start a discussion.
Also, I won’t try to read what seems to be typed by Miek Russ anymore. Get your shit together man, either take your time to type properly on a cellphone or wait until you get into a computer.

All you deserve is this :

EDIT: You know what? Screw ya.
I have some free time left, lets go.

"you can only confirm with certain characters."
Actually, you can NOT confirm with certain characters, which makes 10% of the cast. Big deal indeed.

"it can be crumpled as well but its harder."
No, it can’t. Just a point blank Focus from Blanka can do that. Nothing else in the entire world.

"st.lk is 4 frames ala cr.lp and your tellibg I don’t know? lol"
I have no idea what that meant. Anyway. Claw’s stLK is 5f of startup and his crLP is 4f. Oni’s stLK is 4f and fLK is 5f.

"the only flaw thia poke has is that it can be focus dashed, like cr.mp you know??"
I can focus dash a Boxer’s crLP. But its a stupid idea. Same thing against Oni’s fLK. You will be negative if you do that.

"but hey selectevly reading part of the posts, and then harping on apelling errors is typical behavior of scrub tier dumbasses like you who still bitch about lack of AA."
I bitched about lack of AA? Funny. I only remember saying that you could bitch about lack of AA and it would be fair. But anyway, Vega’s AA sucks really bad.

"this is a better poke when you apply the most honest and pure definition of a poke. its something that forcea a reaction because its relatively safe and controls a lot of space."
True, force a reaction… in this case it forces Oni to block, as he is in an awesome -2 disavantage.

"cr.lp and st.lk only contr the space in front and don’t take up much vertical space. vs thia thing which does and is evident by it atuffing kens cr.mk multiple times."
Vertical space?

"I don’t need a pleb who doesn’t know the differences between a poke like oni’s and a poke like st.lk telling me or teying to educate me with information that me and many many other veteran players that all worked hard to advance this charcter from shit tier to competitve"
lol you WHAT? You did WHAT?
You really think that? Damn it.


Meanwhile, let me finishthis scrubby table here. While looking for more useless stuffs hereand here, because, you know, this is how scrubs act.

Very nice compendium there. I think I delete my xls file and steal yours :slight_smile:

i think he means vertical space as in it can beat out ken’s cr.mk, while vega’s st.lk can’t. not too much of a problem there as we can always use cr.mk to counter poke anyway.

Well, I got what mean. But I don’t think that Claw counter pokes, he is the one that tries to avoid being counter poked. Characters that are out ranged are the ones that need to counter poke in order to get it. Claw use his tools mostly in order to whiff punish those counter poke attempts, either that or nail them with a counter hit.