As a programmer myself I’m somewhat surprised and disappointed you don’t think one needs to be paid.
No one is saying that a programmer shouldn’t be paid, we’re questioning how much one would need to be paid and how long programming said feature would actually take. The amount of money is in question, not if someone is getting a paycheck.
And I’m telling you guys that netcode isn’t something you add magically in a week. If you’re thinking that, you’re wrong (though it’s normal, that’s the dunning-kruger effect at work). It took three months for Mauve to implement and tune Rollcaster, and he already had several netplay clients, each of which had taken several months even though those had been team efforts, under his belt, he already was a fighting netcode integration expert by this point. With 10K you either get an inexperienced programmer for three months, or a specialist for one month. Either way, this is a tight budget to integrate new netcode into an existing engine and completely ignores testing costs (which I’m quite ready to believe they were planning to offload on the community).
Questioning why they’re crowdfunding something they said they’d do for free, that’s a reasonable question (one that’s easy to imagine though: the steam version certainly didn’t sell much). But not questioning the amount. The number’s sound and only unreasonable in the sense that if they wanted to do it well, they’d have to ask for more or find someone willing to work for free.
The thing is that you’re mentioning other person that worked on netcode. He says this is a sham as well. Hell, I know one that got decent job in Chicago that made his netcode public(under MIT License) says this is shady as hell.
And, everyone is pretty sure the netcode dlc would be a hacked up lunaport anyway.
Pulling the Dunning-Kruger at this point in the conversation and how you pulled it is just arrogant as fuck dawg. Step down
Mind linking to that? I feel like it’d be a pretty interesting piece of code to study.
Just wanted to say that, if someone didn’t know, the “netplay code campaign” on Indigogo was a total disaster, they only get like 750 bucks.
I hate eigoManga, so much…
And to kick it even more in the ass, they decided to release Hilda as a DLC character in all of her broken boss mode glory for $1.99.
Also, from what EigoMANGA stated on steam, Sugeno-san decided to take a hands-off approach with VG and let EigoMANGA do everything themselves. So yeah, this verifies that Sugeno abandoned the game. EigoMANGA is also trying to use Unity to port the game over from what they stated…again, I have no faith in this company of the Vanguard Princess in general as long as it stays in EigoMANGA’s hands.
Yeah, rising from the dead with this because… i don’t know… this is… good? bad news? take it as you want:
According to Ars Technica, Vanguard Princess sold the impressive number of 135,241 digital copies on Steam in 2014.
I just hope some of this money is on Sugeno wallet right now…
Despair! EigoMANGA owning Vanguard Princess has left me in despair!
Good thing I have that long rope in my closet…
There’s a 65% off promotion on steam. Whats the run down on this game?
Is the steam version the latest version and are there any game breaking issues with it?
From what I’ve gathered there’s suppose to a Prime version that got abandoned and the original creator has gone MIA. Did the publisher actually screw the creator over or are we just speculating? If he’s not benefiting from steam sales, then I’ll probably withhold on buying.
I’m still waiting for eigomanga to patch a proper online mode for the game.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS PIECE OF SHIT
NO, SERIOUSLY, WHAT IN FUCKING SHIT
SOMEONE STOP THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS
Uhh… I’m not seeing the problem.
She is already available since day one and eigoManga changed every stage with a generic photo, voila, “DLC”.
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
You guys weren’t kidding when you said eigomanga butchered the Vanguard Princess port.
Good thing I never gave them any money.
Well now I no longer have any problems looking up the translations for free since I doubt these guys are helping out Sugeno.
…they keep butchering the damn game. The hell is with that candypop stage or music!? How the hell does that fit into the game!? What is up with that gawd awful character select screen BGM!? DAMNIT!
Getting that Kurumi DLC also takes the Lilith stages out of the game.

There’s a 65% off promotion on steam. Whats the run down on this game?
Is the steam version the latest version and are there any game breaking issues with it?From what I’ve gathered there’s suppose to a Prime version that got abandoned and the original creator has gone MIA. Did the publisher actually screw the creator over or are we just speculating? If he’s not benefiting from steam sales, then I’ll probably withhold on buying.
Kinda glad I withheld myself on purchasing the game back then. No way I’d be giving these dudes money or support such a blatantly bullshit cash grab.