USF4 | Tier List Thread (updated October 2015)

I can’t recall seeing a single tier list from USA that ranked Cody higher than M. Bison or Vega. Dhalsim Higher than Zangief

I also don’t recall any japanese tier lists that ranked Rose lower than Chun. Ryu lower than Yang.

Japan claiming THawk was better than Zangief in AE2012? Lol never happened.

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I filled out one of those forms. >_>

Real talk, last thing on my suggestion list was"Vism dodge" and a bunch of arrows pointing to it.

yeah all of that seems somewhat weird. I know Japan was very high on ae2012 juri for instance, and everyone thinks cody is meh.

Japan thought Cody was low mid. They usually ranked him higher than the US in my experience but close to equal though he dropped more and more as the game developed. He kind of has grappler syndrome in many respects. Every new version he looks good and then drops off. TBH when you look at how he plays it’s basically a shoto grappler who trades a command throw and invincible reversal for more varied normals and better stun output.

I think the biggest differences between japan and US is how we view Vega/Dhalsim/Blanka vs them. More than anyone else those 3 usually rank higher in Japan than the US in any tier list we see. Though the views on Vega have shifted dramatically over the years for USA. Sometimes we think he is solid, sometimes we think he is shit. He seems to shift just based heavily on current success more than any other character does.

adon S tier

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Note this is AE2012 (hence Hawk so low)

It was generally agreed on both sides of the spectrum that Adon was in the top 5 along with Cammy/Akuma/Fei/Seth

I think japan views Sim higher cause their sim players are just absurdly good. Torimeshi/Noriyasu/YHC Mochi are monstrously good players, and they are just flat out better than the people they are playing the vast majority of the time even in Japan.

How mochi has so much pp playing dhalsim is beyond me. And i recall him explicitly saying dhalsim was really good in 2k12 in some interview lol

I have to think that was just a really polite way of Mochi saying, “I’m really good.”

America doesn’t even know Juri is in the game. :C

Japan also ranks Ken higher than Ryu. This has pretty much been the case since Arcade Edition…

Putting Abel that high up? I don’t think anyone’s had him above B tier since Super.

Then again, they probably got this from Capcom Unity…

You’re right, I had to go back and double check. I was thinking just now “Did I forget to write her in or something?” nope not even in the power point image on USA side.

Is there is even an American Juri top player ?

Ken has top 8 evo. Won a major. Whereas ryu can only beat daigo

Ryu beats Daigo? o_O

havent you heard?

evil ryu mains him

Yup. John Choi Ryu

I think in general, Japan has better players while US has a better grasp on tier lists.