USF4 | Tier List Thread (updated October 2015)

His damage is really good, but the -5 Rekka nerf seems pretty big.
Stuff like DP fadc chicken wing 3 hits > Ultra 3 hits are pretty good tho.

-5 isnt big at all. spaced its still unpunishable. and its easier to space into a -4 rekka with the new range.

he now has universal 2 frame combos on crouching characters. better crouch tech into combo. he has rufus style confirms into close fierce which combos into rekkas for 240. he has command grab into ultra with RF and hit confirm lights into ultra. chicken wing close fierce ultra, etc

they buffed his close range game in a major way, and gave him combos into ultra. all for a rekka that you have to space and still isnt going to get punished. and like you said dp fadc CW ultra hurts now too.

yeah, he seems better and more interesting

The crLK - crLK - sHP is supposedly character specific and doesn’t work on everyone like Rufus’ sLK - sLK - sHP :frowning:

Now that I’ve really been able to sink my teeth into it…Makoto with a bar or two stocked is the most dangerous character in the game. New EX Fukiage gives her a mini vortex that you have no tools to (safely) escape from, and you’re stunned on the second go round or a jab away from it.

Bitches best recognize. Nothing beats Rindou Kan karate.

SpabRog and Moons said the same thing on twitter. Some nice stuff, but looks bad, when he they rush him down.

Something random:His Trick Rod had 8f startup in SF X T, in USF4 it has 17f startup, so some sort of a normalized startup for overheads in SF4.

@Oilforthewin Whats up with you and the Big Pappa Pump avatars? Im curious what made you chose to go with that theme lol

its not from what I’ve seen. You do have to get point blank close with a jump in on characters with bigger push boxes tho.

No idea, but he is/was always very funny, even when he never intended to be funny lol. Most insane guy ever.

It looks like that his walk speed is the same like in SF X T[*].
His backdash is the also the same[8 Invincible, 10 Airborn, 9 Recovery (27 total)], can´t say much about his backdash distance(0.82328), but his forward dash has 18f duration(In SF X T it is 21).

[*]
USF4:
Forward Walk Distance per Frame :0.035
Backward Walk Distance per Frame :0.03

SF X T:
Forward Walk Distance per Frame :35
Backward Walk Distance per Frame :30

Jump Duration in Frames: 36 in USF4, in SF X T 35.

I mean, here is the frame data, just look:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Ahj9eopeop0SdDltVUdvbWx4ZjFUMWNBRW1mdmFwUEE&rm

Makes no difference. Shit mobility is shit mobility. He had a shit dash and walk speed in sfxt also.

At the gym I go to there’s a picture of him from when he visited that gym for…some reason I’m not sure of. Sad I wasn’t there when he was though.

Kinda surprised that he is known here lol.

I wonder, if he knows that Cammy and Decapre copied a move from him(The backthrow for both and Cammy´s Fatal Leg Twister). He hates it, when people don´t call it Frankensteiner.

Hugo has 8 prejump frames.

Well, they gave Elena a faster forward walkspeed. Don´t know, why Rolento stayed the same.

thays funny always thought of the Hurricanrana as the frankensteiner and vice versa (although his was off the ropes), but i was pretty young when he was doing his thing so completly forgot. Scott Steiner… frankensteiner. durr.

Macho man was pretty nuts as well R.I.P

In SFxT trick rod wasn’t an overhead. It was just a low avoidance move.

Now I see, how it works. Thanks.

They also found Unblockable setups, where the opponent uses DWU(Not sure, if this was known). GG Capcom.

Should have kept it that way or made it into back + mk.

I’m really waiting for people to break Decapre so I can just X-copy.

Snh Ryu lookin sexy as always

I think Blanka beats Ryu in this version. Blanka got more damage, practical red focus combos, better tools. He also got mid-match cross up HP ball mixup. He lost a safe jump setup off f.throw because of DWU but it’s no big deal.

Ryu got nothing that would help him specifically in this matchup, and he lost DP FADC mixups.

The match plays exactly the same, but it’s in Blanka’s favour because of the changes.

6:4 in Blanka’s favour IMO.

I hate how one of the main reasons this game was even made was to fix the unblockables and they’re still in the game. I know it’s an engine bug that isn’t easy to fix but cmon. DWU is a band-aid and honestly I agree with Wao that it makes the game less exciting.

Also I know it’s still early but I haven’t been super impressed by any Decapre’s yet, has anyone played/seen any great ones?

Watched Alioune on Youtube with her, I’d just copy him for now, he’s been the only one I watched that made her look like she was actually controlling things instead of random teleports and Dp’s canceled into throws.

Even though I thought he was done, I still kinda think Sagat is good for some reason.

Same with Fei, Cammy, Akuma. Maybe they do know how to balance top tiers to an extent.