USF4 | Tier List Thread (updated October 2015)

… and people only noticed it because of Smug. Some characters really are “hidden gems” in this game.

Akuma.

I already miss the times when Juri wasn’t a character we were worried about, even if she was already an issue in a specific match up, just because none played her.

Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like Juri is one of those really “good on paper” characters that never really performs in a major. Maybe as a secondary or counterpick, but never as a main.

But the fuck do I know? Game’s just been out a month.

Most (competent) players have realized that the match has been AT LEAST 6.5-3.5 (damn I hate using half scores for matchups) since Super. That was when Sagat was pretty bad, and Dudley was straight garbage.

Now we fast forward to Ultra, and Sagat is worse, while Dudley has gotten WAAYYY better since Super. Calling the match 7-3 at best is not a stretch whatsoever.

Oh, and if people think Smug is the reason why we call the matchup at least 7-3, then they knew nothing about the game in the first place.

Genkibot won one of the Australian Majors with her. Say what you like about the competition but she’s been underrated for a long time. There’s still even now a definite unknown factor about her.

She’s very polyvalent and doesn’t have many bad MUs anymore. She also has a few 7-3 going for her

Not gonna lie I didn’t even know polyvalent was a word, looks nice tho gonna have to start using that Kappa

Oh, it’s the common word for versatile in French ( transparent word ), I know it exist in English as well but forget it’s a bit rare.

We use it in Chemistry.

I honestly wasnt aware there was another use other than the use related to valence electrons.

Looked at a bottle of bug spray yesterday i needed to replace [one side english other side french]. English side says multi-use/multi-purpose. French side says polyvalent.

#themoreyouknow

funny how every tourny is cammy getting owned but yet all are scared of her…top cammy in world didn’t win. My guess is you are scared of white girls, not cammy so your tier list are null and void.

Last 3 majors was cammy getting owned in pools…even the china player, best in world.

So is an issue with what is provided here. watch pools is many cammys getting onwed…very few make it past and then they die.

compare to akuma, boxer,yun, and for real good characters and the list is wrong. We have 3 data points now and minors like wnf/TS sabbin. so zero evidence that cammy is good? yet she is good?

afraid of white girls is all I can conclude. Any tier list conjecture is absolutely garbage when you throw away data and results.
Sorry, I decided to go ahead and graduate high school so will call people out who put me on blast and burry my post because it contradicts common beliefs…do we still worship zeus? stuff changes.

her damage is low now and stun is low AND EX DK unsafe is huge as that was the bulk of the damage for the last 3 years. dead with facts rather than worshiping Japan who has no cammy players…if cammy was strong…would be all over the boards, the majors, minors, etc. yun has 2x times beating another player…over head, better footsie, safter attacks, better dive kicke, command throw…better punishm more damage/stun.

cammy is mid tier for real.

Yun was top 10 in ae2012, where the fuck was he?

People were still playing him, Kazunoko, Julio and Hsien Chang mostly.
He had difficulties against Cammy and Fei

Did you see what Xiaohai was doing once he got in? She is obviously still very dangerous, and it took Dieminion to play with everything he had AND for Xiaohai to start playing recklessly in order for him to get the win.

Just because the character loses in a few tournaments doesn’t mean the character isn’t good.

yeah 2/3 sets or results from smaller regional tourneys featuring EG, dont determine character strength.

the exception is when you see the same character coming from all angles the way ae2012 cammy ran a thru things for that block of about 6-8 months from like 5 different players.

another thing is that you wont see a weak character into top 8 of a tourney like evo outside of counterpicks, but just because a character doesnt get there doesnt make them automatically weak either

evo is super stacked. just because a character loses a single 2/3 doesnt mean much

why is this guy still alllowed to post

Your user name on that post just won the internet. Free buy into evo finals for you and an unlock code for “black” Cammy.

I use logic you do not…you use 300 pp results to determine tier list like most I guess. 3 years ago? none have shown cammy to be strong so is just junk against white girls…she got nerfed A LOT. we are at end of 3 majors and she has been getting owned.

For real is not my fault stupid people bread…if logic is a bad thing, gtfo.

stupid people bread? How dare you assume how i make my sandwiches, I only use the finest quality rye my friend.