USF4 | Tier List Thread (updated October 2015)

Wtf Cody isn’t slow as a turtle O.o

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Turtles are way faster
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You are a fool.

My goodness. You know as a personal example I have fought and beaten Demonhyos Blanka several times in the past.

I would NEVER be audacious enough or arrogant enough to say I beat him because he doesnt know the match or I was just THAT much better.

Facts are facts. Sagat had a sizable advantage vs Blanka and limits him in the match.

When you pit unique chars vs each other OF COURSE SOME OF THEM NATURALLY BEAT OTHERS. Tools negate and cancel out other tools or exacrbate flaws in design.

If you cant see how Dudley beats Sagat by design, you lack a basic understanding of not just these characters but fighting games as a whole.

i remember bonchan saying that in 2012 dudley was his worst matchup.

So now that high level tourney footage exists of Gen’s +5 ultra…

Further thoughts?

I think its fair, but I might be biased

The Ultra itself doesn’t reward fully on it, so I’m fine with it.
It’s also not the fastest of ultra so whatever

sounds legit

It’s not that invincible and Doesn’t move far on startup, so it’s really not that bad at all.

I genuinely think it isn’t that big of a deal. Better than not having it, sure, but mantis U2 is still pretty iffy as far as ultras go- even with the stun damage they added.

Honestly, I think the fact you can get full animation on airborne opponents is the bigger benefit of the glitch.

All I’ve seen is random wake up Ultra 2 on streams, and people getting hyped because it’s +5.

Inv frames 1-8. Covers the start up. Sticks out to like common sweep range. If you watch the video it cleanly beats an ex DP from Yun.

On the negative side of things it doesn’t hit that far down. Street was saying slides and shit can potentially duck it.

Like I said I think its fair. Its really strong but not broken. But then again, might be biased thoughts. People hated rose super version of U2, and I don’t think that’s as good as this.

Wondering would public outcry force a fix or would capcom make this actually the way the ultra functions on all versions.

Don’t forget that cammy can just focus dash forward and cr.mk into whatever to punish a fireball. A lot of characters can do that. What I don’t understand is why not make only ex moves have fireball invincibility, then when the person has a fireball that have to watch for the move and the opposing player must watch his or her meter.

Blanka matchup is 7-1 in Hugo’s favor. :smiley:

how is that possible lol

Reference to the recent world cup results is my guess. Germany beat Brazil 7-1

Rose u2 in super was way better than this gen shit, cause you couldn’t even bait rose. cause then she’d just have orbs anyways and you’d still have to deal with her pressuring you with orbs up. It was pretty much a no win situation, and you couldn’t beat it with high crossups or anything like you can gen’s u2.

You can use it as a frame trap. Even after being - on hit/block you can use it to beat buttons/tech and some reversals and there’s very little risk. That Gen was just using it at random times vs Ryan Hart and why the hell shouldn’t he?

Where is the video?

gen video thread

and ehubs

Which is acting like it’s new and confirmed how / why it works. Y’know, even though there was video of it weeks ago thanks to the Gen forums finding out and exploring it (especially street11) and I explained the cause weeks ago in the unlisted thread about how it works.

But y’know, eventhubs also posts 3 different sections of the same interview and acts like each one is unique and new.