USF4 On PS4

[Frost]

Not trying to start a debate with you. You gave some analogy regarding typos in a book 400 vs 200,000…or .2%. You were talking about issues being hard to reproduce, etc… but you don’t even have the game. Maybe just wait until you try it? The port is terribly slow -> as in you’ll notice it right away. You don’t need glitches to know this port is garbage and not ready for release.

I’m playing it now, the game isn’t slow; menus are.

[Eternal]

One thing that is odd, how come Capcom employees didn’t know about this? I mean how can you possibly release this port?

I just can’t help but think Combofiend is in the office - and there is a new copy of the PS4 port. He sits down and plays it. What is going through his mind? How the hell doesn’t he notice? Really? No one in the entire Capcom office even tried the game out before launching it? How about on the Sony side? It wasn’t like it took more than 10 seconds to realize that something was seriously off. There is no way that the developer who made this didn’t know ahead of time that they were ripping everyone off. And, really, that is what this is. Independent modders come up with better stuff than this. This isn’t some random glitch or a sound issue that doesnt effect playability. This is the entire game from top to bottom.

If it wasn’t Capcom I would get my money back by complaining to Sony. I just want to make sure they have the funding for SF5.

Many of these issues require a very specific set of circumstances though ones easily reproduceable. Such as the Dudley issue specifically with his bulldog outfit. These kind of things should get more squashed and I’m not giving them any sort of out on this absolute failure (the game has been ported to 3 dif platforms if you don’t count 3DS, there is no excuse). I’m just saying that this isn’t exactly a “one guy can sit down and spot problems in 10 seconds” issue.

Imagine you have a 400 page book with lets say 100 typos in it, that’s a fair bit but you’ve probably got like around 200,000 words in that book. How many times do you think you’d need to reread the whole book to find those 100 typos? Probably quite a number. There are teams of editors to try and stamp out these issues but many still slip by. Once it’s out in the wild you have thousands of people on social media combing over that book at once and spotting the errors and calling em out.

Again, not saying they should get a pass “o these things happen” just saying it’s not as easy as 1 guy sitting down for an hour to spot all the problems.

Main thing is, it sounds like Capcom handed this off to a group of people who have monkeys for QA people and don’t learn their lessons from the awful port of Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection.

LOL. You obviously haven’t played it yet It’s like have a 400 page book, with 200,000 words; and there are 150,000 typos. It’s completely obvious from the second you play that there is something seriously wrong.

This port is gutter trash.

None of the glitches so far would fall under the “completely obvious from the second you play”.

The only one that’s close is the supposed input delay, but that may simply be because it’s been benchmarked against the arcade version, which last I checked was 1 frame slower than 360.

Except for the fact that game plays like it’s in slow motion. I didn’t come to these forums because I found a glitch; i can because i thought there was something wrong with my system. I can’t help but think the people that are defending the port are the ones (like eternal) that haven’t actually played it.

Where did I defend the port itself? I’ve consistently said there is no excuse for the fuckup, just that the ease of QA is being overstated and that things are very likely to come to light once the thing is in the hands of the public which is thousands of people vs maybe 5-10.

Capcom should have run this through their OWN QA team in addition rather than just relying on the hiring of a janky ass company like Oceanic which has a poor record even specifically with fighting games.

Not trying to start a debate with you. You gave some analogy regarding typos in a book 400 vs 200,000…or .2%. You were talking about issues being hard to reproduce, etc… but you don’t even have the game. Maybe just wait until you try it? The port is terribly slow -> as in you’ll notice it right away. You don’t need glitches to know this port is garbage and not ready for release.

I didn’t say the issues were hard to reproduce, I actually said the exact opposite!

One thing that is odd, how come Capcom employees didn’t know about this? I mean how can you possibly release this port?

I just can’t help but think Combofiend is in the office - and there is a new copy of the PS4 port. He sits down and plays it. What is going through his mind? How the hell doesn’t he notice? Really? No one in the entire Capcom office even tried the game out before launching it? How about on the Sony side? It wasn’t like it took more than 10 seconds to realize that something was seriously off. There is no way that the developer who made this didn’t know ahead of time that they were ripping everyone off. And, really, that is what this is. Independent modders come up with better stuff than this. This isn’t some random glitch or a sound issue that doesnt effect playability. This is the entire game from top to bottom.

If it wasn’t Capcom I would get my money back by complaining to Sony. I just want to make sure they have the funding for SF5.

Many of these issues require a very specific set of circumstances** though ones easily reproduceable**. Such as the Dudley issue specifically with his bulldog outfit. These kind of things should get more squashed and I’m not giving them any sort of out on this absolute failure (the game has been ported to 3 dif platforms if you don’t count 3DS, there is no excuse). I’m just saying that this isn’t exactly a “one guy can sit down and spot problems in 10 seconds” issue.

Imagine you have a 400 page book with lets say 100 typos in it, that’s a fair bit but you’ve probably got like around 200,000 words in that book. How many times do you think you’d need to reread the whole book to find those 100 typos? Probably quite a number. There are teams of editors to try and stamp out these issues but many still slip by. Once it’s out in the wild you have thousands of people on social media combing over that book at once and spotting the errors and calling em out.

Again, not saying they should get a pass “o these things happen” just saying it’s not as easy as 1 guy sitting down for an hour to spot all the problems.

Main thing is, it sounds like Capcom handed this off to a group of people who have monkeys for QA people and don’t learn their lessons from the awful port of Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection.

I said it required a specific set of circumstances. That means you need to do X+Y to A+B to get this in many of the cases. You can easily and consistently do this once you know what you’re looking for.

Do you have idea how many lines of code are in a game how many places an error COULD be? 0.2% is a ton. Actually even in books having an 0.2% typo to word ratio would be considered unacceptable to many publishers. Most books you’re lucky to find more than 20 typos in a book that length if it’s a halfway decent editor.

My ONLY point was one guy isn’t going to find all of these issues. Hell, in QA even if you FIND the issue, document it, classify it, and the programmers are willing to fix it the issue may come down to budget and executives may deem it not cost effective to do so! Isn’t game development lovely?

The FACT this port is fucked up and shouldn’t have seen release yet is a totally different matter and one I fully am behind.

[Frost]

My ONLY point was one guy isn’t going to find all of these issues. Hell, in QA even if you FIND the issue, document it, classify it, and the programmers are willing to fix it the issue may come down to budget and executives may deem it not cost effective to do so! Isn’t game development lovely?

Poor QA Tester - “Hey guys…I found a problem in the PS4 port.”

Other Ocean: “What’s the issue?”

Poor QA Tester - “…The port.”

[Eternal]

http://trenchescomic.com/tales/post/9810

Don’t read the comics, read the stories underneath. Game testing / QA is often a shitty job where even if you do your job RIGHT it sucks.

[Fat]

One thing that is odd, how come Capcom employees didn’t know about this? I mean how can you possibly release this port?

I just can’t help but think Combofiend is in the office - and there is a new copy of the PS4 port. He sits down and plays it. What is going through his mind? How the hell doesn’t he notice? Really? No one in the entire Capcom office even tried the game out before launching it? How about on the Sony side? It wasn’t like it took more than 10 seconds to realize that something was seriously off. There is no way that the developer who made this didn’t know ahead of time that they were ripping everyone off. And, really, that is what this is. Independent modders come up with better stuff than this. This isn’t some random glitch or a sound issue that doesnt effect playability. This is the entire game from top to bottom.

If it wasn’t Capcom I would get my money back by complaining to Sony. I just want to make sure they have the funding for SF5.

Many of these issues require a very specific set of circumstances though ones easily reproduceable. Such as the Dudley issue specifically with his bulldog outfit. These kind of things should get more squashed and I’m not giving them any sort of out on this absolute failure (the game has been ported to 3 dif platforms if you don’t count 3DS, there is no excuse). I’m just saying that this isn’t exactly a “one guy can sit down and spot problems in 10 seconds” issue.

Imagine you have a 400 page book with lets say 100 typos in it, that’s a fair bit but you’ve probably got like around 200,000 words in that book. How many times do you think you’d need to reread the whole book to find those 100 typos? Probably quite a number. There are teams of editors to try and stamp out these issues but many still slip by. Once it’s out in the wild you have thousands of people on social media combing over that book at once and spotting the errors and calling em out.

Again, not saying they should get a pass “o these things happen” just saying it’s not as easy as 1 guy sitting down for an hour to spot all the problems.

Main thing is, it sounds like Capcom handed this off to a group of people who have monkeys for QA people and don’t learn their lessons from the awful port of Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection.

LOL. You obviously haven’t played it yet It’s like have a 400 page book, with 200,000 words; and there are 150,000 typos. It’s completely obvious from the second you play that there is something seriously wrong.

This port is gutter trash.

None of the glitches so far would fall under the “completely obvious from the second you play”.

The only one that’s close is the supposed input delay, but that may simply be because it’s been benchmarked against the arcade version, which last I checked was 1 frame slower than 360.

Except for the fact that game plays like it’s in slow motion. I didn’t come to these forums because I found a glitch; i can because i thought there was something wrong with my system. I can’t help but think the people that are defending the port are the ones (like eternal) that haven’t actually played it.

Where did I defend the port itself? I’ve consistently said there is no excuse for the fuckup, just that the ease of QA is being overstated and that things are very likely to come to light once the thing is in the hands of the public which is thousands of people vs maybe 5-10.

Capcom should have run this through their OWN QA team in addition rather than just relying on the hiring of a janky ass company like Oceanic which has a poor record even specifically with fighting games.

Not trying to start a debate with you. You gave some analogy regarding typos in a book 400 vs 200,000…or .2%. You were talking about issues being hard to reproduce, etc… but you don’t even have the game. Maybe just wait until you try it? The port is terribly slow -> as in you’ll notice it right away. You don’t need glitches to know this port is garbage and not ready for release.

I didn’t say the issues were hard to reproduce, I actually said the exact opposite!

One thing that is odd, how come Capcom employees didn’t know about this? I mean how can you possibly release this port?

I just can’t help but think Combofiend is in the office - and there is a new copy of the PS4 port. He sits down and plays it. What is going through his mind? How the hell doesn’t he notice? Really? No one in the entire Capcom office even tried the game out before launching it? How about on the Sony side? It wasn’t like it took more than 10 seconds to realize that something was seriously off. There is no way that the developer who made this didn’t know ahead of time that they were ripping everyone off. And, really, that is what this is. Independent modders come up with better stuff than this. This isn’t some random glitch or a sound issue that doesnt effect playability. This is the entire game from top to bottom.

If it wasn’t Capcom I would get my money back by complaining to Sony. I just want to make sure they have the funding for SF5.

Many of these issues require a very specific set of circumstances** though ones easily reproduceable**. Such as the Dudley issue specifically with his bulldog outfit. These kind of things should get more squashed and I’m not giving them any sort of out on this absolute failure (the game has been ported to 3 dif platforms if you don’t count 3DS, there is no excuse). I’m just saying that this isn’t exactly a “one guy can sit down and spot problems in 10 seconds” issue.

Imagine you have a 400 page book with lets say 100 typos in it, that’s a fair bit but you’ve probably got like around 200,000 words in that book. How many times do you think you’d need to reread the whole book to find those 100 typos? Probably quite a number. There are teams of editors to try and stamp out these issues but many still slip by. Once it’s out in the wild you have thousands of people on social media combing over that book at once and spotting the errors and calling em out.

Again, not saying they should get a pass “o these things happen” just saying it’s not as easy as 1 guy sitting down for an hour to spot all the problems.

Main thing is, it sounds like Capcom handed this off to a group of people who have monkeys for QA people and don’t learn their lessons from the awful port of Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection.

I said it required a specific set of circumstances. That means you need to do X+Y to A+B to get this in many of the cases. You can easily and consistently do this once you know what you’re looking for.

Do you have idea how many lines of code are in a game how many places an error COULD be? 0.2% is a ton. Actually even in books having an 0.2% typo to word ratio would be considered unacceptable to many publishers. Most books you’re lucky to find more than 20 typos in a book that length if it’s a halfway decent editor.

My ONLY point was one guy isn’t going to find all of these issues. Hell, in QA even if you FIND the issue, document it, classify it, and the programmers are willing to fix it the issue may come down to budget and executives may deem it not cost effective to do so! Isn’t game development lovely?

The FACT this port is fucked up and shouldn’t have seen release yet is a totally different matter and one I fully am behind.

Just go play it already. It’s not like anyone who plays this game a lot can miss how off it feels, looks, sounds. It will take you less than one minute to know how off it is. When I read your above posts and can only feel you’re trying to start some kind of wild argument. You don’t even have the game, but you’re comment in the USF4 on PS4 thread.

Just go play the PS4 version at your friends house. Then come back here and write your posts. Obviously, you need to actually try the game to start posting percentages of typos or whatever you’re babbling about. When you actually try the game, you’re going to find what ANY QA person, who is comparing one version to the other, already found - this game does NOT play like the other versions. There are problems all over the place. It’s not like these are issues they could have “missed”.

[Frost]

Guile’s Sonic Boom graphical effects are fucked. Mine isn’t invisible but has a horrible effect following from behind it, can’t explain what it looks like. Draw one of those very simple fish shapes and imagine the tail on it, it looks like that.

[d3v]

Wolfrone is saying that the game has no input lag.
https://twitter.com/WOLFKRONE/status/603439521779228672

Now I recall Josh actually plays on PS3, so this may be in relation to that version.

[skitzless]

I can’t believe none of these problems, apart from the menus, were pointed in any of the previews.

Case in point http://www.destructoid.com/yep-ultra-street-fighter-iv-on-ps4-sure-looks-great-292798.phtml

[bypostman]

Question, the game should be universal for all copies right? Bc there’s quite a variance between responses. People going from “There’s no input lag” to “9 frames of input lag” is kinda big.

[kombatmedik]

has capcom seriously not said anything yet

[KakashiKopyKat]

So far with the game I only notice these few things:
Online, sometimes the connection bar would show no bars but then when you ready up for the next match it would be green.
SLOW menus
Gamertag disappearance
Training stage blurry lines on the ground
The trail behind Guile sonic boom is abit off. I checked old gen vid of sonic booms and you can tell the difference.

I havent experienced the Dudley robotic noise nor the invisible sonic booms. I chucked booms w Guile in the lab for like 10 minutes and it never occurred. I see alot of people complaining about input lag…idk but I haven’t experience that either. Man this is some real sloppy work. Im just going to chill and wait for a patch. Hopefully these issues get fixed quick because I know ps4 is the new standard now for the tournaments.

[merkyofayceMF]

Question, the game should be universal for all copies right? Bc there’s quite a variance between responses. People going from “There’s no input lag” to “9 frames of input lag” is kinda big.

It could be down to different input devices. I’m wondering if it’s the lab-zero driver causing issues, actual PCB lag, a combination of the two, people being used to setup X Y or Z coming into using the PS4 version, etc.

[bypostman]

Yeah, and apparently different bugs are appearing/not appearing for people. There must be pretty specific circumstances where this is actually happening then.

Which means…Idk what for patch time release. Better? Worse?

[KakashiKopyKat]

Yeah, and apparently different bugs are appearing/not appearing for people. There must be pretty specific circumstances where this is actually happening then.

Which means…Idk what for patch time release. Better? Worse?

I was actually saying that to myself. Might be a timing thing but then again you never know. It’s weird though that people are experiencing different bullshit with the game. That video of Dudley noise shocked me because I was playing on every stage to see if there was an audio problem and nothing. I used the same color and all.

[NYCgeek]

To all those that say there’s no input lag offline (in actual gameplay), are you guys coming from the ps3 version? Because compared to the ps3 version I feel it’s about the same. Compared to the PC or xbox360 version, there’s a good amount of input lag offline. Offline feels like it’s like a good yellow bar (almost green) connection on xbox live.

[merkyofayceMF]

This thread saved me 25 bucks tho tbh.

Plus it will probably go free on Plus because they did that with vanilla AE awhile back, and IIRC VF. Just holding out hope that everything gets patched up in time, but I’m not holding my breath.

[Dat_Nigga]

Anyone else getting input lag with their ps3 fightstick?
I’m using a Qanba q4raf and it feels like 2-3 frames of lag.

[Mr_CHUCKLES]

im listening to ultrachentv on twitch. they mention something about having two sticks working on ps4 but gotta run through hoops to get it working. anyone know these instructions?

[jebop]

USF4: Epilepsy Edition.

Decapre nerfed.
Dudley sounding like Mecha Gief.
Everyone else is a 10-0 matchup on your eyes.

[Veserius]

im listening to ultrachentv on twitch. they mention something about having two sticks working on ps4 but gotta run through hoops to get it working. anyone know these instructions?