This is a new list that will serve as a temp wiki for Ultra Street Fighter 2 until someone puts it up on the official SRK wiki. It’s main purpose is to point out the differences between USF2 and Super Turbo. This list is drawn from the comments in the main USF2 thread here in FGD. I can’t find anywhere else on the net seriously discussing this game. Please let me know if anything needs to be added and I will add it!
Main Differences:
-Based on the JPN ST rom (unverified but very likely Capcom used the Dreamcast ST port as a base like Sirlin did for HDR. Could also be based off of Hyper SF2). Gief’s neutral headbutt auto-dizzies on hit in USF2, which only happens on the JPN versions of SF2.
-Runs at 1.35x speed of JPN Turbo 0. ST runs at 1.43x JPN Turbo 0. So 5.6% slower.
-It is speculated that different stages in ST run at different speeds (i.e. Gief and Honda stages are slower and Vega’s stage is fast). This appears to be fixed now.
-Damage and stun are fixed instead of slightly variable like normal SF2.
-“Bugs” found in ST have been squashed. No moves are storable. Ken/Sagat/Dhalsim can do reversal supers. Moves that hit on the first frame (Blanka ball, Akuma air tatsu, Ken’s HP SRK) are no longer 50/50 unblockable. Fireball characters are no longer able to get shorter recovery on MP and HP fireballs via kara cancel techniques. Chain or “Renda” canceling still works (i.e. cr.lk,cr.lk, xx super combo for Ken and V.Ken).
-Throw teching is now a neutral no-damage clash like later SF games. Command grabs cannot be teched. Unknown yet if throwboxes were made the same length or if every character has a different one like normal SF2. Also unknown if you could tech a normal throw if someone attempts a grab outside of the target’s throw range.
-You can now throw someone out of a dizzy if the dizzy was caused by a normal or command throw. You usually only see this with Honda.
-Health bar no longer displays zero vitality while a character is alive. One pixel of health can ether equal one pixel of chip or zero life left making it impossible to differentiate between the two.
-Special move motions have more lenient timings (fixed input window like HDR) which makes certain moves easier/harder depending on what character you are using.
-Fireballs do a little more damage and throws do a little less damage across the board.
-Akuma is unlocked, meant to be used competitively, and is slightly towned down from his ST incarnation. Has raging demon super.
-Evil Ryu and Violent Ken are included.
-All characters except for Akuma/E.Ryu/V.Ken have the same fixed stun rates.
-Very slight “balance” changes have been made to certain characters.
-Other as-of-yet unexplained gameplay differences related to timing of moves.
Character Differences:
Ryu: No change. Fixed input window might mess up walkup SRK or walkup fireball as it did in HDR. Changed input for his knockdown red fireball.
Ken: Super can now be used as a reversal. Certain moves have easier inputs.
Chun-li: Super cannot be stored, making her a weaker character than in ST.
E. Honda: Super and ochio cannot be stored. Throw loops based off his HP grab no longer work (but do work with his HK grab still). Sumo Smash special move may have had hitboxes altered making it a lot more difficult to use it to go through fireballs. Ochio throw currently has a glitch that allows it to grab people out of non-throwable frames (like right after the super flash). Overall well worse than his ST iteration.
Blanka: No change.
Zangief: Easier input window allows for very easy walkup SPDs (hold forward, go forward down, down, down back, back, back up, punch). Green hand uses SRK motion. Two buttons allow for a lariat instead of three, messing up using the “piano” method for getting SPD ticks and reversals. Neutral HP headbutt insta-dizzies. MK kneedrop is bugged (treated like a LK move). Currently has a glitch that allows for normal throws to get SPD range. This can also be used to give Gief Super SPD range. Probably considered neutrally good as his ST counterpart (i.e. not good lol).
Guile: No change. Easier input windows allow for new combos involving super, flashkicks, and sonic booms.
Dhalsim: Super can be used as a reversal, making him better than his ST counterpart. Teleport reversal works correctly now (i.e. won’t teleport you into the same place if done as a reversal). New inputs for yoga flame and upflame.
T Hawk: Based off N. Hawk, so shitty normals. Also cannot start a throw loop off of his HK throw, making him a lot worse than ST if that’s possible. Easier input windows make walkup SPDs easier like with Gief. No longer has stray hurtbox trailing his crouching MP. Might be the worst character in the game.
Cammy: No change aside for easier input motion for hooligan roll and backfist.
Fei-long: No change. Easier chicken wing input.
Balrog: Easier input windows allow him to do stuff he couldn’t do in ST, like follow up a dash upper into a dash sweep. Unknown if it really helps him that much right now. Can no longer get a safe jump throw loop off his throw on certain characters.
Deejay: No change.
Vega: Can’t re-attach claw after losing it. Forced to climb his gate on his stage, making him a lot worse playing in Spain. Cannot store his flipkick by holding a back charge. Capcom said they made it so you can’t juggle flipkick after landing a flipkick but it still works on wide hurtbox characters like Gief and Sagat.
Sagat: Based of N. Sagat from ST (so, pretty bad). Can use super as a reversal. Inputs changed for tiger knee.
Bison: HP Psycho Crusher only hits twice on block and stops close to the opponent instead of blowing past them.
Akuma: Can be dizzied. New input for red fireball. Takes more in damage and stun than the rest of the cast (moreso than E.Ryu/V.Ken). Cannot lock people in a corner with his HP multi-hit fireball. Ground tatsu can no longer go through projectiles. Possibly other nerfs from ST Akuma. Still top tier. Maybe even the best still.
V.Ken: Not in ST. Has a few attributes from N.Ken (crazy kicks, knee bash), O.Ken (invincible srks, better hadokens), and even HF Ken (HF style air tatsu). Has a wicked command dash that may or may not break the overall game balance. Jump arc is unlike any other character in the entire SF2 series. Walks faster than regular Ken. SRKs juggle like Akuma. Takes a lot more damage than the rest of the cast (second only to Akuma). Probably the best character in the game right now.
E.Ryu: Not in ST. Basically regular Ryu with a few new moves and less health. Differences include controllable normals (being able to use a close or far normal at your convenience, like Dhalsim). Has a new far reaching kick overhead. Has raging demon super. Walks faster than regular Ryu. Red fireballs hit multiple times like Akuma. SRKs and tatsus juggle like Akuma (SRKs don’t hit 3 times like Akuma though). Currently doesn’t have a juggle limit on air tatsus, which can make for easy juggle dizzies. Strangely SRKs are not fully invincible on the way up like Akuma or V.Ken.
Changes from HDR to USF2 detailed by user @Vance
HDR -> USF2
Spoiler
Ryu
- Loses fake fireball (qcf+lk).
- Increased damage of hadoken and shakunetsu hadoken.
Ken
- Input for crazy kicks changed to hcf+k, hcb+k and qcf+k instead of just qcf+k. Makes walkup tatsu impossible.
+/- Medium shoryuken now hits two times instead of one. Knocks down on second hit, not fully invulnerable on the way up.
- Hard shoryuken has shorter arc, may leave opponent standing if third hit does not connect.
+/- Reduced range on hard tatsumaki senpukyaku, but increased its speed and doubled its stun value.
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Throw traps from knee bash considerably less useful because of throw techs.
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Reduced range on medium tatsumaki senpukyaku.
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Increased range on light tatsumaki senpukyaku.
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Increased damage and range of mk throw (knee bash).
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Increased damage of hadoken.
Guile
- Hard flash kick now travels high and up instead of far forward and diagonally up, with an extended hitbox to match medium and light flash kick.
+/- Upside down kick no longer an overhead, increased its priority, increased speed to 15 frames instead of 20 and reduced size of hurtbox.
+/- Super may not connect correctly all the time, charge d+df,f,uf+k option removed, damage increased substantially.
- Increased damage of Sonic Boom.
E. Honda
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J.lk no longer hits sweeps.
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Throw traps considerably less useful because of throw techs.
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Distance traveled when steering j.hp left or right reduced.
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Can no longer “store” ochio throw by holding db after doing the controller motion, then pressing p when ready to do the throw
- Doubled stun value of ochio throw.
+/- Hundred hand slap takes more button presses to come out, increased damage and priority.
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Super can now be countered by opponent’s invulnerable move even if the first hit connects, no longer juggles for 50% (3-hits) from certain distances.
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Light headbutt no longer projectile invulnerable.
Blanka
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Electricity takes more button presses to use.
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Throw mixups and “roll into bite” considerably less useful because of throw techs.
+/- Horizontal rolling attack recovery time time increased, no longer gets damage penalty if hit out of it but much easier to punish even if it connects.
+/- Increased range of light and medium horizontal rolling attack.
- Increased startup and recovery time of rainbow roll, making it easy to hit Blanka out of it even if it connects.
+/- Can no longer hop with lp+lk, mp+mk or hp+hk, generates more super meter. Also decreased frames with foot invulnerability.
- Increased startup time and recovery time of super, can now be punished even if it connects, does not always knock down the opponent.
Zangief
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Hcb+f,p and hcf+b p shortcuts for spinning piledriver removed.
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Running grab and double suplex command changed to 360+k.
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Removed lp+lk and hp+hk shortcuts for lariats.
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Super motion changed to 720+p, making walkup super impractical.
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Added 4 frames of recovery time to green hand.
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Slowed down running bear grab.
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Kick lariat no longer foot invulnerable during first rotation.
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Punch lariat hitbox reduced so it no longer hits low attacks.
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Reduced hitbox on j.mp, no longer extends all the way down.
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Reduced hitbox on c.hp, making it a less viable anti-air.
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Can now hop with b+mp, f+mp or b+hp in addition to f+hp, slowed down significantly, increased hurtbox making it easier to get countered by low moves.
Chun Li
+/- Added new move: df+mk (backflip).
+/- Lightning legs take more button presses to use, increased damage and stun value significantly, increased priority slightly.
- Loses ability to “store” super, increased damage output.
- Neckbreaker (df+hk) can now cross up in some situations, making it difficult to block.
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Spinning bird kick now travels forward instead of an arc.
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Can no longer do spinning bird kick after connecting with j.d+mk.
- Increased damage of Kikoken.
Dhalsim
- Increased range on yoga noogie (mp throw).
- Throw traps considerably less useful because of throw techs.
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Damage increased on super, can no longer be thrown out of it, removed hurtbox at back of his head during super.
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Increased meter gain from yoga flame and yoga blast.
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Yoga flame changed from qcb+p to hcf+p.
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Yoga blast changed from qcb+k tp hcb+k.
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Super motion changed to hcfx2+p instead of hcbx2+p.
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Yoga blast (upward flame) no longer travels upward.
- Increased damage of yoga fire, yoga flame and yoga blast.
Cammy
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Spinning backfist no longer has projectile or lower body invulnerability, reduced hitbox on second hit.
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Spiral arrow less safe on block, must be carefully spaced to avoid punish.
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Increased priority on light spiral arrow.
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Cannon spike now safe on block.
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Hitbox increased on j.mp.
Dee Jay
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Machine gun uppercut input changed; much more difficult to get all four hits unless you can easily piano all three punch buttons repeatedly.
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Machine gun uppercut no longer destroys fireballs.
- Damage and stun values for machine gun uppercut increased significantly.
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Second hit of dread kicks much more difficult to connect, can now be countered easily if the first hit is blocked.
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Medium and hard dread kicks no longer go over low attacks.
- Increased damage of Max Out.
Fei Long
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Input for Rekkukyaku (flying kicks) changed to hcf+k.
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Reduced range on Rekkaken. Also more difficult to connect all three punches in series.
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Meter gains increased on Shienkyaku (flame kick) and Rekkukyaku.
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Can combo into Rekkaken after Rekkukyaku.
+/- Reduced range on super, but head is no longer vulnerable during 4th and 5th hit.
+/- Light Rekkukyaku has less frames of partial invulnerability, making them more susceptible to fireballs, but they are now safe on block.
- Medium and hard Shienkyaku don’t always knock down.
- Increased priority and reduced recovery time of Shienkyaku.
- Can no longer juggle with Shienkyaku after Rekkukyaku.
T. Hawk
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Throw setups considerably less useful because of throw techs.
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Increased size of hurtbox when T. Hawk is standing still.
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Reduced hitbox on elbow drop, c.lp, j.mp, close s.lk, close s.hk, neutral j.lk, neutral j.mk and far s.mk.
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Reduced hitbox and damage of neutral j.hp, neutral j.hk, diagonal j.hp and diagonal j.hk.
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Reduced hitbox for far s.lk, can no longer be special canceled.
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Reduced hitbox, priority and reach of c.mk.
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Reduced active hitbox on c.mp.
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Reduced damage on close s.hp.
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Reduced priority and damage on s.hp.
+/- Reduced hitbox on second hit of c.hp, increased its horizonal range on both hits.
+/- Increased range on far s.hk, but does less damage and will miss some crouching characters.
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Reduced speed and damage of c.hk.
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Diagonal j.lk can not be cancelled.
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Body slam (j.d+hp) does less damage and no longer crosses up against all characters.
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All versions of Tomahawk Buster no longer guarantee knockdown on hit.
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Reduced invincibility and damage from medium and hard versions of Tomahawk Buster.
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No longer possible to do Mexican Typhoon with hcb,f+p or hcf,b+p.
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No longer possible to do Super with hcbx2,f+p or hcfx2,b+p.
+/- Condor dive knocks down, no longer safe on block, bounces further back on block or hit.
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Reduced recovery time after Condor Dive, allowing T. Hawk to land before opponent.
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Whiff animation no longer occurs after missed Mexican Typhoon.
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T. Hawk falls faster and lands closer to opponent after connected Mexican Typhoon or Super.
Balrog
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Increased throw range.
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Increased super damage from 50% to 60%.
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Low rush punch cancel into light headbutt is now safe on block.
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Increased meter gain on headbutt and early levels of TAP.
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Reduced recovery time on light and medium headbutt.
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Medium headbutt no longer projectile invincible.
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Throw traps considerably less useful because of throw techs.
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No longer possible to charge TAP by holding down two buttons instead of three.
Vega
- Flying Barcelona Attack knocks down on hit.
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In Spain stage, Vega will climb the cage instead of bouncing off the wall during the Flying Barcelona Attack.
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Removed fake wall dive (charge d+u,k, press k again when touching wall).
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No longer possible to combo scarlet terror into scarlet terror except against larger characters.
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Can no longer pick up the claw if dropped.
Sagat
+/- Increased damage and recovery time on all tiger shots.
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Reduced range of super, does not always knock down on hit.
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Reduced damage on hard tiger uppercut, now hits multiple times.
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Can no longer juggle multiple tiger knees.
- Can now cancel second hit of s.lk.
- Can not cancel c.mp.
M. Bison
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Removed invulnerability frames in beginning of Devil’s Reverse.
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Removed fake slide (df+hk).
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Tick and cheese throws considerably less useful because of throw techs.
+/- Hard psycho crusher must be blocked twice, lands closer to opponent.
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Removed juggling property of neutral j.mp (diagonal j.mp still juggles).
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Reduced priority on s.lp.
Akuma
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Air fireball (zankuu hadouken) no longer causes hop effect, travels the length of the screen instead of a sharp downward angle.
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Increased distance where gou hadouken causes massive knockback.
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Input for Shakunetsu Hadoken changed from qcb+p to hcb+p.
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Input window for shun goku satsu (Raging Demon) is noticeably more difficult.
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Increased minimum height for zankuu Hadoken.
- Increased damage of gou Hadoken, shakunetsu hadoken and zankuu hadoken.
Evil Ryu
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Has 20% less HP and easier to dizzy than Ryu or Ken.
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Also doesn’t have fake fireball (Like Ultra Ryu).
- Increased forward walk speed.
+/- Loses Shinkuu Hadoken but gains Raging Demon (Shun Goku Satsu) super.
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Air and ground Tatsumaki senpukyaku can now juggle into other tatsus or shoryuken.
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Greatly increased damage of ground medium or hard tatsumaki senpukyaku when both hits come from outstretched leg instead of the knee.
+/- Reduced damage of medium shakunetsu hadoken, increased damage of hard shakunetsu hadoken. Both versions result in stunning animation.
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New move: overhead kick (f+mk).
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New teleport move: Ashura Senku (dp or rdp + two punches or two kicks).
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Can do close versions of normals by pressing b+attack button. Expanded hitboxes on back normals.
Violent Ken
- Has 20% less HP and easier to dizzy than Ryu or Ken.
- Increased walk speed.
+/- Jump speed increased. Violent Ken rises and falls faster than any other shoto.
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Can juggle with medium shoryuken if hitting opponent out of the air.
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Increased damage on ground and air tatsumaki senpukyaku, knocks down on hit.
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Changed trajectory of air tatsumaki senpukyaku horizontally towards opponent, even when jumping backwards.
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New command dash move: Rasetsukyaku (dp+k).
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New move: Inazuma kick (f+mk).
+/- New super move: Shinbu Messatsu (qcfx2+k). Replaces shoryu reppa for a move with more range and combo versatility but less damage.
More to come soon!