US student is sentenced to 15 years hard labor in North Korea for trying to steal a political banner

[Darksakul]

Read horror stories about the Korean Gulag camps.

Stick a fork in this kid. He is fucked. Even if he does’nt die, in 15 years he’ll wish he did.

A pseudo-death sentence over a poster?

Assuming his mind is not mush by then

[spudlyff8fan]

I doubt North Korea intentionally gave him massive brain damage. He’s much more valuable in good health than not.

You are giving NK too much credit, they can’t even take care of their citizens.
And you expect then not to give a prisoner brain damage

North Korea doesn’t gain anything from having healthy citizens. They gain plenty by having someone to ransom to the United States government. The fact that they sent him back for free kind of speaks for itself.

[ShinjiGohan]

What exactly does it speak to? Does it speak to N.K. not wanting to kill an American with Trump in office? NK recognizing the Trump unlike Obama might actually retaliate? That it is a taunt showing the USA that they can do what they want? I’m having trouble pinning down what exactly NK was thinking when a)they let this guys condition get as bad as it did b)why they brought him home in the first place?

[spudlyff8fan]

What exactly does it speak to? Does it speak to N.K. not wanting to kill an American with Trump in office? NK recognizing the Trump unlike Obama might actually retaliate? That it is a taunt showing the USA that they can do what they want? I’m having trouble pinning down what exactly NK was thinking when a)they let this guys condition get as bad as it did b)why they brought him home in the first place?

Again, the North Korean government takes these people captive for the express purpose of ransoming them back. They are of no value if they’re a vegetable and they’re a liability if they’re dead.

This isn’t exactly calculus.

[ShinjiGohan]

Then they should have ransomed the kid back when push over obama was in office. They then lost their chance.

[Starhammer]

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Now i am wondering what kind of horrifying shit he was put up to to get in that coma.

Maybe something like this

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ROTFLMAO!! Look at it and watch how the audience is all claping in PERFECT UNISON! These poor bastards are so robotic even their so called show of happiness is in sync. Those poor chicks on the stage made me feel like I was watching American Bandstand. Like DAMN.

i want to see footage of him doing labor.

With the kind of horror stories they are telling about NK prisons, you might end up seeing pictures of him IN labor. Ain’t no telling what put him in that coma, and he probably doesn’t want us to know.

-Starhammer-

[pedoviejo]

What exactly does it speak to? Does it speak to N.K. not wanting to kill an American with Trump in office? NK recognizing the Trump unlike Obama might actually retaliate? That it is a taunt showing the USA that they can do what they want? I’m having trouble pinning down what exactly NK was thinking when a)they let this guys condition get as bad as it did b)why they brought him home in the first place?

Again, the North Korean government takes these people captive for the express purpose of ransoming them back. They are of no value if they’re a vegetable and they’re a liability if they’re dead.

This isn’t exactly calculus.

M.korea is definitely gonna want 100000 lbs of Cheetos for this xuxd.

[XthAtGAm3RGuYX]

Guy’s dumb but lets not pretend that anyone deserves to be basicly killed over a fucking poster.

While it’s true that the punishment does not fit the crime no matter how you slice it, the situation leaves little room for empathy.

It takes special kind of nut case to genuinely entertain just the idea of going to North Korea.
Then not only actually go to North Korea, but then commit a crime of any kind as a foreigner? Like do you expect them to just give you a stern talking to and send you home early?

[chadouken]

Guy’s dumb but lets not pretend that anyone deserves to be basicly killed over a fucking poster.

While it’s true that the punishment does not fit the crime no matter how you slice it, the situation leaves little room for empathy.

It takes special kind of nut case to genuinely entertain just the idea of going to North Korea.
Then not only actually go to North Korea, but then commit a crime of any kind as a foreigner? Like do you expect them to just give you a stern talking to and send you home early?

Hubris. The dude thought he could get away with anything. A well-to-do white kid going to UVA. Growing up near Charlottesville, I’ve always had a problem with the general snobbery of those students.

That said, he doesn’t deserve the level of mistreatment that led to severe brain damage.

[NickRocks]

damb so otto got tortured stupid. def was to send a message. NK dont fucc around. lesson learned, example made

[Raij1n]

It ain just Otto.

In political prisons in north Korea most offenders stay for two to three generations… That’s babies living and dying and being subjected to torture.

NK doesn’t need to be rolled on the human rights of some dumbshut American kid. NK needs to be rolled because as a nation it lives in violation of human rights, generations of them.

[crucades]

Guy’s dumb but lets not pretend that anyone deserves to be basicly killed over a fucking poster.

While it’s true that the punishment does not fit the crime no matter how you slice it, the situation leaves little room for empathy.

It takes special kind of nut case to genuinely entertain just the idea of going to North Korea.
Then not only actually go to North Korea, but then commit a crime of any kind as a foreigner? Like do you expect them to just give you a stern talking to and send you home early?

Hubris. The dude thought he could get away with anything. A well-to-do white kid going to UVA. Growing up near Charlottesville, I’ve always had a problem with the general snobbery of those students.

That said, he doesn’t deserve the level of mistreatment that led to severe brain damage.

I disagree, there are certain people in the western world, especially younger folk that could gain a lot from being tied to a wall and having the back whipped off em for a few days solid.

[locoghoul]

It ain just Otto.

In political prisons in north Korea most offenders stay for two to three generations… That’s babies living and dying and being subjected to torture.

NK doesn’t need to be rolled on the human rights of some dumbshut American kid. NK needs to be rolled because as a nation it lives in violation of human rights, generations of them.

on the other hand, you have countries pointing fingers at NK/Sudan/etc for human rights violations yet they do it on the downlo too. CIA used several torture techniques against “potential national security threats” such as waterboarding and sleep deprivation. They even opened a research program into sleep deprivation. Think about that.

Oh, and when questioned about it (read leaked) we all got a conference saying “we are sorry, won’t happen again”

Good to be the good guys amirite?

[spudlyff8fan]

What exactly does it speak to? Does it speak to N.K. not wanting to kill an American with Trump in office? NK recognizing the Trump unlike Obama might actually retaliate? That it is a taunt showing the USA that they can do what they want? I’m having trouble pinning down what exactly NK was thinking when a)they let this guys condition get as bad as it did b)why they brought him home in the first place?

Again, the North Korean government takes these people captive for the express purpose of ransoming them back. They are of no value if they’re a vegetable and they’re a liability if they’re dead.

This isn’t exactly calculus.

Yes, because Obama is the President that pals around with communist despots.

[Shaft_Agent]

It ain just Otto.

In political prisons in north Korea most offenders stay for two to three generations… That’s babies living and dying and being subjected to torture.

NK doesn’t need to be rolled on the human rights of some dumbshut American kid. NK needs to be rolled because as a nation it lives in violation of human rights, generations of them.

on the other hand, you have countries pointing fingers at NK/Sudan/etc for human rights violations yet they do it on the downlo too. CIA used several torture techniques against “potential national security threats” such as waterboarding and sleep deprivation. They even opened a research program into sleep deprivation. Think about that.

Oh, and when questioned about it (read leaked) we all got a conference saying “we are sorry, won’t happen again”

Good to be the good guys amirite?

come on, bruh. don’t try to pull the “moral equivalency” card on something like this. CIA didn’t torture the children and the children’s children of a potential national security threat.

[locoghoul]

It ain just Otto.

In political prisons in north Korea most offenders stay for two to three generations… That’s babies living and dying and being subjected to torture.

NK doesn’t need to be rolled on the human rights of some dumbshut American kid. NK needs to be rolled because as a nation it lives in violation of human rights, generations of them.

on the other hand, you have countries pointing fingers at NK/Sudan/etc for human rights violations yet they do it on the downlo too. CIA used several torture techniques against “potential national security threats” such as waterboarding and sleep deprivation. They even opened a research program into sleep deprivation. Think about that.

Oh, and when questioned about it (read leaked) we all got a conference saying “we are sorry, won’t happen again”

Good to be the good guys amirite?

come on, bruh. don’t try to pull the “moral equivalency” card on something like this. CIA didn’t torture the children and the children’s children of a potential national security threat.

that’s the point. We ain’t got no clue when it does so because WE DON’T HEAR ABOUT IT. Do you understand what a “research program” is? They tested that shit for years, not days, not weeks. Lots of random brown fuckers got tortured and were disposed like hand towels on some basement overseas for “national security reasons”

[spudlyff8fan]

The American government has done loads of bad things over the last 240 years. But here in 2017, we don’t have concentration camps all over the place. And that’s one of the many things that makes America better than North Korea in 2017.

[Darksakul]

It ain just Otto.

In political prisons in north Korea most offenders stay for two to three generations… That’s babies living and dying and being subjected to torture.

NK doesn’t need to be rolled on the human rights of some dumbshut American kid. NK needs to be rolled because as a nation it lives in violation of human rights, generations of them.

on the other hand, you have countries pointing fingers at NK/Sudan/etc for human rights violations yet they do it on the downlo too. CIA used several torture techniques against “potential national security threats” such as waterboarding and sleep deprivation. They even opened a research program into sleep deprivation. Think about that.

Oh, and when questioned about it (read leaked) we all got a conference saying “we are sorry, won’t happen again”

Good to be the good guys amirite?

come on, bruh. don’t try to pull the “moral equivalency” card on something like this. CIA didn’t torture the children and the children’s children of a potential national security threat.

that’s the point. We ain’t got no clue when it does so because WE DON’T HEAR ABOUT IT. Do you understand what a “research program” is? They tested that shit for years, not days, not weeks. Lots of random brown fuckers got tortured and were disposed like hand towels on some basement overseas for “national security reasons”

Stop reading spy novels and Tom Clancy books.
Your post reads like the introductory of a Metal Gear Solid game manual

[locoghoul]

The American government has done loads of bad things over the last 240 years. But here in 2017, we don’t have concentration camps all over the place. And that’s one of the many things that makes America better than North Korea in 2017.

You are right. Straight genocide is the preferred method for USA (Nicaragua, Guatemala, Iraq, native americans)

[pedoviejo]

It ain just Otto.

In political prisons in north Korea most offenders stay for two to three generations… That’s babies living and dying and being subjected to torture.

NK doesn’t need to be rolled on the human rights of some dumbshut American kid. NK needs to be rolled because as a nation it lives in violation of human rights, generations of them.

on the other hand, you have countries pointing fingers at NK/Sudan/etc for human rights violations yet they do it on the downlo too. CIA used several torture techniques against “potential national security threats” such as waterboarding and sleep deprivation. They even opened a research program into sleep deprivation. Think about that.

Oh, and when questioned about it (read leaked) we all got a conference saying “we are sorry, won’t happen again”

Good to be the good guys amirite?

Look dude, I’m not stabbing for those programs, nor should we have used them. But you have to be a special kind of stupid to think either of those two are comparable to the torture used by the Koreans. They are in completely different leagues.

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Oh boy he threw in the genocide argument in there to.