*UPDATED!*"Quit lecturing me and show me what you've got!"- The UMvC3 Zero Video Thread

Thanks! I’ve got a little more work to put in with Strider but he’s a fun character, I think he goes pretty well with Zero and Dante, really helped keep people from running wild when they’re outside of Zero’s area of rape (3/4 of the screen around Zero lol). Definitely glad I dropped Dormammu for him.

When are you gonna ride up with Aaron for one of the monthlies? lol

Really well done man, glad there’s some actual footage of that team to digest pulls notepad out. My main problem right now is just understanding how to use Strider assist to close the gap really, with HM it’s no problem for me because I understand I give my opponent 3 choices.

  1. Run away in X direction, thus telegraphing their movement and setting up tricks/ traps.
  2. Block it and still set up tricks and traps, even if airblocked.
  3. Take the hit- free combo.

With Vajra it’s just…different and I haven’t quite got my head around it yet.

Tsk tsk tsk Phil. After what I did to you with my Ghost Rider at Dave’s.

Also, its gonna be weird seeing you as Jon instead of Samurai. REALLY awesome game vs. Noel Brown. ESPECIALLY THAT LAST GAME OH MY GOD. Watching that Dieminion game killed me :[

1 question though, for you Jon, how come you never used the Strider ender for Zero (before the Jam Session extension) ?

Hmm I think Vajra and hidden missiles are complete different. Hidden missiles is more of a setup assist, where you put it out there, the opponent knows it’s there, and it influences what they do so that you can intercept and punish. It takes a lot longer to setup though and it’s not a “hmm I should hidden missiles here” kind of thing.

Vajra is more of a full screen poke, you can use it to contain people for short periods of time when you need to close the distance to get into Zero’s preferred range. It also puts them in block stun long enough to force people to the ground if they’re jumping a lot, so you can get a lot of sneaky low hits in off of a blocked Vajra. People also try to block it high a lot of the time just because instincts tell them there’s a guy kicking their head from the air, they should stand block it, so it messes with people.

A lot of the time when I use it, I’m not even looking for it to hit or lead into a combo, I just want to keep them still long enough to limit the risk on zero’s approach. Plus Zero helps keep strider safe because of level 3 buster. You CAN combo off of it in the corner, or if you do dive > land > level 3 buster > sougenmou and run up and combo, but those situations don’t come up all that much. But really, zero’s fine getting hits with his own mixups and pressure, as well as with Dante or whatever assist you use with him, so think of Strider more as a poke / screen control. I put him on the team to keep people from running away / super jumping so much.

lol thanks. I still get people refusing to call me Jon. They’re like NO DAMNIT YOU ARE SAMURAI TO ME. That dieminion game is kinda painful to watch. I dropped so many chances lol. I hate that strange is so hard to combo with Zero as well. It’s like dieminion has the perfect team to give Zero trouble >_<

Using strider AND dante as combo extensions is really unreliable for me in the same combo, and as far as the strider extension, it feels really unreliable off of anything other than starting a standard zero combo off of a ground hit. It’s very iffy about the scaling it seems. So pretty much, just not wanting to risk wasting my openings with that combo if I dropped it.

dive land buster run forward M S. All day erry’ day. Not even hard so long as you get the dash input in.

You have to hit the dive pretty deep to do that. Can’t see strider hit from far away, run up, dive and then combo that way, as far as I know.

Well, you can also do Setsuizan OTG xx Buster > forward air dash > j.:m: > j.:d::h: > land > s.:m: > s.:h: (1 hit) > :s: to continue the combo.

So I’m making a Zero combo video to the song “I’m sexy and I know it” by LMFAO and I’m having trouble to find the correct moves to have Zero do when the “wiggle wiggle” chorus comes on.

So Kef posted a list of DHC’s to LL and I didn’t see any for Ryu. Add this to your list :]

Its off an L Donkey Kick in the corner and for follow up, I have to do air M xx L Raikousen because I can’t get enough charge off the DHC. Its not terribly impractical…
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Well yeah, that’s a way to land the LL, but that’s more of a setup than a DHC really. What I mean in that list is just basically starting the loop with a Raikouzen at the beginning instead of a normal, because probably the combo of the character that I am DHCing from already has enough HSD that they will pop out once I hit them with anything that is not an infinite hitsun move (Buster, Raikouzen).

Back to the lab it is.

6:03:32
http://www.twitch.tv/stormunity/b/312730773
Lost to Thanh. Should have won the 2nd round /: Gotta hold that L for a bit.
Still <3 you thanh man lol

Never ever speak of those matches ever again. Even though this is my highest placing in a while, I did not play anywhere near my normal level. I look REALLY scrubby.

And just to clarify for anyone who actually watches those matches.

  1. M Setsuizan (tatsu assist) S xx Buster xx L Raikousen M Setsuizan does connect. I don’t know why that kept dropping. Its a semi-tough extension but I’ve extremely consistent with it back at home >:[
  2. L Raikousen (Wesker otg) L Raikousen xx Lightning Loop also connects. It kept either crossing up or Wesker just didn’t pick up the character at all during these matches and it really confused me
  3. I aim to land as many DPs as I can in a match.

I don’t understand why you were even trying it in the corner tbh, not only is less damage than the solo relaunch it looked like it was a lot less reliable too (I mean, how often does anyone drop a solo relaunch in the corner?). It whiffed cos you were too close to the character in the corner, if you backdashed and had Wesker come out further back it would connect. But yeah you should have gone for a solo relaunch then Wesker ender xx Lightning Loop instead.

Decent matches, sad that CJ Truth won though =/

Hmm…if a solo relaunch is better, than I’m going to start doing that instead. Its something I’ve been doing since Vanilla so I do it out of habit.

the monitor they were using might have been messed up in image quality. Because Thanh mentioned to me before we were playing during the button check.

As in, it wasn’t set to the correct display settings. It was a bit pixelated/blurry while we were playing. I have a feeling it was on like 480p instead of 720 but its whatever, no one at this tournament really cared about Marvel. Regardless, I do need to work on my overall consistency in tournament play.

I gave away that first round /: Tried to xfactor guard cancel w/ phoenix but I guess i did the input to early and it registered as me not blocking -__-
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Here’s another match I had. It was my 1st round at the tourney as well
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